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The Gold, Silver and Bronze pro-Olympics Thread
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Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View PostWell, it certainly is a discipline ahinton. That is very well recognised by all involved. I was expecting other questions that I couldn't answer as easily like "why make a distinction between boxing and judo or between men's and women's boxing?".
My answer to those doesn't convince on logical grounds but I will give it anyway. I have a lot of autographs from famous boxers who trained or were trainers at the Manor Place Baths in South London many years ago - Downes, Conteh, many others. They were good enough to do that for me and so I have never opposed it - it also has a positive side but then in an ideal world etc etc.
Basically, it is here and I fully accept that - at times I have even watched it occasionally - but I am not sure that I welcome it being broadened in scope, whether in terms of gender or anything else. And I don't have any connection of that kind with judo.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostDavid Bedford achieved in in 1 minute... (No, not the David Bedford athletix fans are thinking of!):
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mUInYuhvQU
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Lateralthinking1
Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostThe difference between judo and boxing is that the former is a defensive discipline which uses the attacker's own bodily strength against itself.
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Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View PostWell, it certainly is a discipline ahinton. That is very well recognised by all involved. I was expecting other questions that I couldn't answer as easily like "why make a distinction between boxing and judo or between men's and women's boxing?".
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Anna
Just to return briefly to the subject of women ....... (sorry guys!) it was only for 2012 that the IOC allowed women to compete in all 28 disciplines and insisted that all competing countries also had to have women competitors. Saudi only named Sarah Attar in June of this year so, maybe they did choose someone with no hope of winning (and bringing huge embarrassment to them - can you imagine the dismay if she actually did well?)
IOC also increased number of medals available to women from 127 in Beijing to 140 for 2012. And another silver today for the gurlies in sailing (oh, and one for the men as well!) I hope I don't come across as some raging feminist in dungarees and a bad haircut ........... !!!
Edit: Re posts about Dave above, he's at the BMX today (now that's an odd sport - why cannot they have bikes that actually fit them?)
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Originally posted by Anna View PostJust to return briefly to the subject of women ....... (sorry guys!)
Originally posted by Anna View PostI hope I don't come across as some raging feminist in dungarees and a bad haircut ........... !!!
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostWell, you might get those from others here. Insofar as boxing of any kind involves the development of certain techniques, I suppose that one could call it a "discipline" as far as it goes, but whether or to what extent it is a worthwhile one from a sporting perspective remains open to question, it seems to me. That said, no form of boxing interests me in the slightest, any more than does judo, all of which I find quite mind-numbingly boring.
It is neither a sport, a discipline, nor - God help us - a "science".
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Originally posted by mangerton View PostI was forced to box at school, despite having absolutely no wish to do so. I have loathed and detested it ever since. I think people who do it have mental problems - I mean before they start, as we know it turns the brain to mush - and those who watch it are even worse. Sadists every one.
It is neither a sport, a discipline, nor - God help us - a "science".
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Originally posted by Anna View PostLooking at the Games from a female perspective - yesterday the 3 GB golds were won by women. Their medal tally of 9 gold, 6 silver and 5 bronze means so far it's the most successful Olympics ever for British women. To think that even in 1986 women were barred from competing in rowing! I believe women make up 40% of the team, the highest ever, so I suppose one would expect a bigger haul than in the past. However, another thing to cheer is the first female from Saudi competing in a track event, and although she came last she received a standing ovation. So it really is Games for the Girls.
I missed out on the ladies volleyball, whenever I switched on it was those awful males bashing the ball about. And I missed the synchronised swimming - there were some heavenly beauties there.
So I am sure that a ladies only games would produce some rare sights, and hold my full attention.
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Originally posted by mangerton View PostI was forced to box at school, despite having absolutely no wish to do so. I have loathed and detested it ever since. I think people who do it have mental problems - I mean before they start, as we know it turns the brain to mush - and those who watch it are even worse. Sadists every one.
It is neither a sport, a discipline, nor - God help us - a "science".
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