IPSOS/MORI poll for BBC radio

[Flosshilde]

Just had someone at the door conducting an IPSOS/MORI survey for BBC radio & commercial radio. Unfortunately I fell outside his required demographic - men aged under 35 & under 25 . I did try & persuade him that the grey hair was premature aging, brought on by the new puppy, but he wasn't convinced

[amateur51]

Just had someone at the door conducting an IPSOS/MORI survey for BBC radio & commercial radio. Unfortunately I fell outside his required demographic - men aged under 35 & under 25 . I did try & persuade him that the grey hair was premature aging, brought on by the new puppy, but he wasn't convinced

This is important news, Flossie - you have a new puppy?!?

Pics asap svp - or details at the very least

[Serial_Apologist]

Just had someone at the door conducting an IPSOS/MORI survey for BBC radio & commercial radio. Unfortunately I fell outside his required demographic - men aged under 35 & under 25 . I did try & persuade him that the grey hair was premature aging, brought on by the new puppy, but he wasn't convinced

Lucky "old" you!!! We only ever get Jehovah's Witnesses and people offering "cheaper" gas 'n' electricity, round 'ere!

[mangerton]

Lucky "old" you!!! We only ever get Jehovah's Witnesses and people offering "cheaper" gas 'n' electricity, round 'ere!

In another life, I did the g & e thing for a bit, many years ago. It's stopped here now, but still going on there? (I'm now a Highly Respectable Employee of a HMG Department )

It used to be great fun visiting people at home. Once I knocked on a door which was ajar....

"Who's that?" a man in the house shouted.

"It's mangerton, from (name of very well known energy supplier)".

"(name of very well known energy supplier)? Well you can **** off!"

And the women were often worse.



Flossie..... how can you be under 35 & under 25? Shurely you have to be one or the other.

[french frank]

I did one on New Year's Eve for the BBC - the Brand and Reputation Tracking Survey. They told me I didn't have to actually watch television or listen to radio - I had to give my 'impression' as an answer to the proposition:

On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is Strongly disagree and 10 is Strongly agree, rate the statement:

The BBC has high quality programmes and services



I tried to persuade someone, not altogether successfully, that there was a world of difference between that statement and:

BBC programmes and services are of high quality

and that the first one was weighted to get a more positive response.

[french frank]

Flossie..... how can you be under 35 & under 25? Shurely you have to be one or the other.

You can be 18.

[Flosshilde]

You can be 18.

I was, once ( a long time ago)

I was also under 25 and under 35 once - in fact I was under 35 twice

[amateur51]

You can be 18.

Not any more I can't

Although, now you mention it, not any more I can't

[Resurrection Man]

I did one on New Year's Eve for the BBC - the Brand and Reputation Tracking Survey. They told me I didn't have to actually watch television or listen to radio - I had to give my 'impression' as an answer to the proposition:

On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is Strongly disagree and 10 is Strongly agree, rate the statement:

The BBC has high quality programmes and services



I tried to persuade someone, not altogether successfully, that there was a world of difference between that statement and:

BBC programmes and services are of high quality

and that the first one was weighted to get a more positive response.

If you thought that was bad then mosey on down to Annex 1 at the bottom of this report. Do you understand it? I don't! And talk about loaded questions. http://www.culture.gov.uk/images/pub...ort_July12.pdf

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Not any more I can't

Although, now you mention it, not any more I can't

[french frank]

If you thought that was bad then mosey on down to Annex 1 at the bottom of this report. Do you understand it? I don't! And talk about loaded questions. http://www.culture.gov.uk/images/pub...ort_July12.pdf

The interesting point to me was how people interpreted the questions in different ways (and you can add to that that they can/will interpret their own answers in different ways (e.g. What does a '6' mean? What does a '7' mean?).

I can't face reading the whole thing, but off the cuff I was struck by the section on the 'impact' of digital switchover which included the consumer's 'benefits' (unspecified) from digital radio but not the 'disadvantages' (unspecified). The only consumer disadvantage considered was the cost of buying a new radio. Nothing about the audio quality, for example.

[Resurrection Man]

Oh there's a whole lot worse buried in there, FF. The whole 'benefits' case is built on shifting sands and does not bear any rational scrutiny. The current set of documents presented to us for 'comment' is based on the PwC report ...the online version being heavily redacted. But fear not, this intrepid reporter has requested an unredacted version under FoI and also via my MP.

[Aubade]

Unfortunately I fell outside his required demographic - men aged under 35 & under 25 .

There is another point inherent in this. For what reason would you ever frame a research question to which you only wanted to hear responses from the younger audience without any interest in the older audience? Yes, yes, I know that might want to know… etc. But why to the exclusion of the obverse of the coin? Heads and no tails? It smacks of that well known grail of Youth.

(And still no detail of the puppy. Breed? Sex (presumably not yet)? Age?)

[Flosshilde]

(And still no detail of the puppy. Breed? Sex (presumably not yet)? Age?)

Sorry, haven't had time to sort out posting pictures, but -

Breed - Bearded Collie
Sex - attempted - frequently, on us & other dogs (rather precocious)
Age - 5 months
Weight - 13 kilos
Name - Dougal

[Flosshilde]

There is another point inherent in this. For what reason would you ever frame a research question to which you only wanted to hear responses from the younger audience without any interest in the older audience? Yes, yes, I know that might want to know… etc. But why to the exclusion of the obverse of the coin? Heads and no tails? It smacks of that well known grail of Youth.

Well, he might have managed to get his quota of 35+ respondents (especially as he called in the afternoon, when the under 35s & 25s were most likely to be at work)