Dominant Alpha

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

i have just completed reading the book under review here and agree fully with the reviewer's commentary .. it is an extremely important pi3ece of work in that it highlights how humans evolved to cooperate and the disruptive and life threatening impact of dominant alpha bullies [typically male but less so these days]

in the good old pleistocene we would just get their sibling or cousin to do them in ....

it is clear that settlement society has allowed and encouraged a renaissance of the dominant alpha male ... now well established in power in major business and government roles [evidence ]

i think we need to talk to their siblings and cousins eh ...

[Lateralthinking1]

i have just completed reading the book under review here and agree fully with the reviewer's commentary .. it is an extremely important pi3ece of work in that it highlights how humans evolved to cooperate and the disruptive and life threatening impact of dominant alpha bullies [typically male but less so these days]

in the good old pleistocene we would just get their sibling or cousin to do them in ....

it is clear that settlement society has allowed and encouraged a renaissance of the dominant alpha male ... now well established in power in major business and government roles [evidence ]

i think we need to talk to their siblings and cousins eh ...

Who are today's siblings/cousins of today's alphas? If the bankers are the alphas, their Parliamentary siblings/cousins are more inclined to ape them than oppose. Non-alphas have lost the argument, even though right and logic are on their side, and they will never again win it. That is not to say that they have lost the battle, that is should a battle ever occur.

Action against alphas is rarely willing. Most people need to feel forced into it. We'd have had Hitler here, and in a less 'liberal' form, far earlier than 2012 had there been an army only of volunteers. This country then felt sufficiently threatened to require action but ordinary folk who were not suffering hugely from direct impacts hoped it would all go away.

What WW2 did show was that once you have crushed one set of alphas, you see no reason for lesser kinds to govern you. It crosses the boundaries in that sense. So we need another form of WW2 to the extent that this means action rather than talk. I believe it should be in the form of transferring money across to mutuals etc and some serious changes to gut consumerism.

If that happened in a widespread way, this dragon would be easily slayed. I don't think any political ideology that had been closely related to it would again see the light of the day. Regrettably it first needs the vast majority of people to suffer badly. I suspect this bunch of Haw-Haws can manipulate the terrain just enough to prevent such a situation occurring.

[Serial_Apologist]

Just beeen re-reading Huxley's "Island" on this. What do you do about/with the power freaks? Huxley's Dr Robert's answer basically is deflection - early-on deflection into anything that satisfies their inborn cravings for domination and away from exercising it on humans and life in general.

'"So, these splendid creatures fell trees instead of felling people - is that it?"

"Precisely. And when they've had enough of the woods, they can go to sea, or try their hands at mining, or take it easy, relatively speaking, on the rice paddies"'.

Seems logical

[Lateralthinking1]

Just beeen re-reading Huxley's "Island" on this. What do you do about/with the power freaks? Huxley's Dr Robert's answer basically is deflection - early-on deflection into anything that satisfies their inborn cravings for domination and away from exercising it on humans and life in general.

'"So, these splendid creatures fell trees instead of felling people - is that it?"

"Precisely. And when they've had enough of the woods, they can go to sea, or try their hands at mining, or take it easy, relatively speaking, on the rice paddies"'.

Seems logical

Yes I think so. And Gladstone would be an interesting study. He was a fanatical tree chopper - a power freak who was also obsessive about things that were good for the soul.

Then there were Alastair Campbell's ventures into playing bagpipes alone on deserted Highland beaches. Perhaps they were trying to tell themselves something before the country did.

[Serial_Apologist]

Yes I think so. And Gladstone would be an interesting study. He was a fanatical tree chopper - a power freak who was also obsessive about things that were good for the soul.

Then there were Alastair Campbell's ventures into playing bagpipes alone on deserted Highland beaches. Perhaps they were trying to tell themselves something before the country did.

Yes, I've always thought there was something testicularly odd about bagpipes. Chopper substitutes.

[Lateralthinking1]

Chopper substitutes.

What does that make the process of chopping staff and services to the vulnerable?

Another interesting thing is the wall that Churchill built at Chartwell. It was one of his ways of relaxing but you can't help but feel that it truly belonged at one of the cinque ports.

[Lateralthinking1]

....Government won't commit to proposals to support the elderly that would cost, quote, "one one-thousandth of public spending".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18800601

[mangerton]

....Government won't commit to proposals to support the elderly that would cost, quote, "one one-thousandth of public spending".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18800601

Well, really, Lt1, why on earth should they? They and their parents will be All Right, Jack.

Remember, that's the tory way, and we're all in it together.

[Lateralthinking1]

Well, really, Lt1, why on earth should they? They and their parents will be All Right, Jack.

Remember, that's the tory way, and we're all in it together.

Quite. Much as I really hate to say it, if I were in a marginal constituency and the General Election were tomorrow, I would have to vote Labour for the first time ever in a General Election.

Ed M has just about won me over and I'm willing to give the other Ed the benefit of the doubt. I still dislike intensely a lot of what attaches itself to them. And I am sure that there will be plenty of time in the meantime for them giving me good reason to change my mind.

As it happens, the Tories would win here even if the late Fred West was their candidate. So what I think doesn't make the slightest difference in the outcome. I might as well do Green again or have a day on the river.

[mangerton]

As it happens, the Tories would win here even if the late Fred West was their candidate. So what I think doesn't make the slightest difference in the outcome. I might as well do Green again or have a day on the river.

Come to Scotland and vote for the SNP, and their well-known leader Sir Alex Ferguson.

[amateur51]

What does that make the process of chopping staff and services to the vulnerable?

Another interesting thing is the wall that Churchill built at Chartwell. It was one of his ways of relaxing but you can't help but feel that it truly belonged at one of the cinque ports.

Was Churchill's wall built to keep us out or him in?

[amateur51]

....Government won't commit to proposals to support the elderly that would cost, quote, "one one-thousandth of public spending".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18800601

I listened to that this evening on PM Lat and couldn't believe how that LibDem spokesperson wriggled & writhed - wretched man

[amateur51]

Come to Scotland and vote for the SNP, and their well-known leader Sir Alex Ferguson.

[handsomefortune]

at least sir's got balls though eh!

[teamsaint]

Was Churchill's wall built to keep us out or him in?

Wall, that vile Wall which did these lovers sunder; And through Wall's chink, poor souls, they are content. To whisper. At the which let no man wonder.

Walls.Divide. Its what they do.

Count the bricks round Broadlands or similar.