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Lateralthinking1
The BBC says 'beaten'.* The Guardian says 'hit'. A leading judo player versus a drunk with a plastic bottle, only the latter arrested and this presumably seen as right and correct by politicians, police and public alike. Why should anyone risk leaving the house?:
Man who threw plastic bottle on to track at start of race arrested after tackle by bronze medal-winning Edith Bosch
Bosch's other pursuit is mixed martial arts. Here's one of her sparring partners - quote, "I would beat the c**p out of that woman" etc. Irrespective of the character of Kardashian, if you like this, with the sound turned on, Britain officially loves you and gives you absolute authority to punch out wildly. In fact, it argues in many cases of unequal competition that morally it is the only decent thing to do. And anyone who has the temerity to suggest otherwise is to be condemned by the braying mob as reprehensible.
*Subsequently the BBC added "This has not been confirmed". However, the Twitter account still says "Ik heb hem geslagen".Last edited by Guest; 06-08-12, 03:34.
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Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post. . . seen as right and correct by politicians, police and public alike. . . .
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JohnSkelton
Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
Beef Oven is sipping his third pool-side G&T of the afternoon. He will join the rest of his family on the beach in 45 minutes. He is on day five of a short six-week break designed to avoid the Olympics disruption and the rainy weather.Originally posted by Beef Oven View PostJW, stop banging your head against a brick-wall ... Just enjoy the Limpix for what you know they are, I know I am
Originally posted by Beef Oven View Postthere are so many loser-tossers in here!!
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scottycelt
Forever moaning about the 'cost' of the Olympics is no different about moaning about the cost of, say, the Proms. The regular staging of such events tend to happen irrespective of the economic conditions at the time. One could easily argue that the Proms are also too expensive to stage in the current 'cuts' climate.
Personally, I consider both to be forms of 'escapism' from the harsh realities of life. These are there to give the audience pleasure and excitement away from the ordinary and mundane. Both appear to do so admirably.
When one digs down into the reasons why some people moan about such events it almost always has a lot (if not everything) to do with politics. The great majority of us are apolitical and just want to have a good time and enjoy ourselves. That is also a reality which political leaders like Cameron forever popping up on our TV screens when GB wins a gold medal don't seem to understand ... the last thing we want to see is yet another damned politician whether it is Cameron, Miliband or Clegg ... what we love to see is great sport and happy, smiling faces, like the truly delightful Jessica Ennis, who have already achieved great things in their young lives. It's surely the poltiics and politicians (both professional and amateur) who should clear off for a fortnight and give the rest of us a well-deserved break.
As for the media ... it will always go OTT ... but it's very presence has produced some real 'finds'. Katherine Grainger, with her confident, quick-witted and fearless retorts to her interviewers could easily herself have a future glittering career in the media and entertainment industry.
However, in the end, it's all these happy, smiling young (and older) faces that really does it for me ... such things are genuinely priceless!
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Lateralthinking1
Originally posted by scottycelt View PostForever moaning about the 'cost' of the Olympics is no different about moaning about the cost of, say, the Proms. The regular staging of such events tend to happen irrespective of the economic conditions at the time. One could easily argue that the Proms are also too expensive to stage in the current 'cuts' climate.
Personally, I consider both to be forms of 'escapism' from the harsh realities of life. These are there to give the audience pleasure and excitement away from the ordinary and mundane. Both appear to do so admirably.
When one digs down into the reasons why some people moan about such events it almost always has a lot (if not everything) to do with politics. The great majority of us are apolitical and just want to have a good time and enjoy ourselves. That is also a reality which political leaders like Cameron forever popping up on our TV screens when GB wins a gold medal don't seem to understand ... the last thing we want to see is yet another damned politician whether it is Cameron, Miliband or Clegg ... what we love to see is great sport and happy, smiling faces, like the truly delightful Jessica Ennis, who have already achieved great things in their young lives. It's surely the poltiics and politicians (both professional and amateur) who should clear off for a fortnight and give the rest of us a well-deserved break.
As for the media ... it will always go OTT ... but it's very presence has produced some real 'finds'. Katherine Grainger, with her confident, quick-witted and fearless retorts to her interviewers could easily herself have a future glittering career in the media and entertainment industry.
However, in the end, it's all these happy, smiling young (and older) faces that really does it for me ... such things are genuinely priceless!
The problem with people who are competitive is that they are frequently failures in their own minds. The only way they can cope is in being complex. They can't really moan about eternally coming 17th or 19th as that is not permitted. It also sounds pathetic if they have really tried from one decade to the next. Consequently, they are inclined to attacks on others wrapped up, as society requires, in double speak. No one would dream of the malevolence they have, let alone notice it, other than those who have never been competitive at all. We generally see through it and mainly view it with a combination of exasperation and bemusement.
That, I think, is why ordinary people appeal to me. My last but one girlfriend had a shopping addiction. For a while, she could only cook in my house because there were so many bags and boxes piled high to the ceiling in hers that she couldn't even get to her own oven. She was not without anger following the break-up of her marriage but she was always direct and I was able to help her a little with her problems. In comparison it was very simple, even if after nine months we'd had more than enough of each other.Last edited by Guest; 06-08-12, 08:01.
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In the heat of the moment the assault by the lady was excessive, she could have used her judo skills to wrestle the man to the ground, and sit on him - isn't that the usual way to make a citizen's arrest?
She might have just caught the race too !
Originally posted by Sydney Grew View PostIt may have been said earlier in this thread; but there is an obvious link between the glorification of physical strength and Hitlerism. The second is the logical consequence of the first.- - -
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Northender
Originally posted by John Wright View PostYes, and this forum is populated mainly by folks who respect the opinions of others, and in my opinion some of the anti-pride-in-the -Olympics postings seem to be just folk just envious of others' ability to enjoy. It's my opinion, I'm not being arrogant. Indeed an example of arrogance is the miseries on here telling us that we should not enjoy the Olympics, and we should not be reminded of them through media and shop posters because it's all a political event to benefit large corporations.
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Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View PostThe problem with people who are competitive is that they are frequently failures in their own minds.
But I'm not very interested in watching other people engage in sport. I saw the headline that Andy Murray had won gold and sort of muttered, 'Well done, our man' (satisfied mainly because I was glad for him that he had finally achieved something that had eluded him, and he deserved it).
But I am very gloomy that everything is so OTT these days, emotionally and in the media. Being a natural phlegmatic/stoic I'd rather give all this high emotional display a miss because (for me) it gets in the way of appreciating anything. But different people are what they are. Nothing to be done about it. No point in criticising.
But the money ...It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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JohnSkelton
Apart from everything else what I don't like about the Olympics is the same people only more of them who never watch sport except for Wimbledon because tennis is just like ballet and the skill and dedication of the players is just like ballet dancers etc. etc. have (a) discovered a deep fascination for all the absurd non-sports that pad out the Olympics - underwater BMX polo, clay horse shooting, round the bollards 400 times kayaking etc. (b) jumped on the GB football team not winning a medal and with enormous them and us relish bemoaned "how dreadfully unlike our wonderful round the bollards 400 times kayaking team those dreadful footballers are not winning a medal just typical of them so selfish and vulgar and stupid I never watch sport except for Wimbledon because it's like ballet but the Olympics well I've simply been gripped and we have a real chance of gold in the 400 mile yawning competition will Jessica do it oh I do hope so when you look at all the hours of dedication ...."
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Originally posted by french frank View PostI'm not sure that this can be proved. Some people like physical exercise, some don't. 'Sport' involves competition and that for many people is what spurs them on to achieve their absolute best. To do that in the Olympic spirit of goodwill and friendship seems an entirely good thing.
But I'm not very interested in watching other people engage in sport. I saw the headline that Andy Murray had won gold and sort of muttered, 'Well done, our man' (satisfied mainly because I was glad for him that he had finally achieved something that had eluded him, and he deserved it).
But I am very gloomy that everything is so OTT these days, emotionally and in the media. Being a natural phlegmatic/stoic I'd rather give all this high emotional display a miss because (for me) it gets in the way of appreciating anything. But different people are what they are. Nothing to be done about it. No point in criticising.
But the money ...
And yes, the money must be nice
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Originally posted by JohnSkelton View PostApart from everything else what I don't like about the Olympics is the same people only more of them who never watch sport except for Wimbledon because tennis is just like ballet and the skill and dedication of the players is just like ballet dancers etc. etc. have (a) discovered a deep fascination for all the absurd non-sports that pad out the Olympics - underwater BMX polo, clay horse shooting, round the bollards 400 times kayaking etc. (b) jumped on the GB football team not winning a medal and with enormous them and us relish bemoaned "how dreadfully unlike our wonderful round the bollards 400 times kayaking team those dreadful footballers are not winning a medal just typical of them so selfish and vulgar and stupid I never watch sport except for Wimbledon because it's like ballet but the Olympics well I've simply been gripped and we have a real chance of gold in the 400 mile yawning competition will Jessica do it oh I do hope so when you look at all the hours of dedication ...."
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