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  • Vile Consort
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 696

    #91
    Originally posted by Budapest View Post
    I wonder how much Peston and the plethora of other BBC 'financial correspondants' get paid per anum, all screwed out of licence payers under threat of imprisonment.
    I expect they get paid mainly through their bank accounts rather than via the route you suggest.

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    • Resurrection Man

      #92
      I like the BBC...R3 Breakfast/ Essential Classics notwithstanding. In the grand scheme of things, the licence fee is the best way of funding it. It allows the BBC to make decent quality programmes rather than rely on imported American dross. You might not like the programmes but many others do.

      As far as NEDs are concerned then they most definitely do have a place in the boardroom. Just like in any other activity of human endeavour...there are good Non-Execs and bad Non-Execs. Nor is it always 'jobs for the boys'.

      I find many arguments in this thread are totally without foundation ...just the usual hobby-horses being ridden into the ground.

      The concept of the World Service being funded by the Secret Service is risible. This is one of the more esoteric flights-of-fancy being bandied about by the usual suspect.

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      • amateur51

        #93
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Well, I would defend the BBC as an institution, for <ahem> what that's worth. But there are <ahem again> areas for concern... :-|
        beautifully put <ahem>

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        • Lateralthinking1

          #94
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Well, I would defend the BBC as an institution, for <ahem> what that's worth. But there are <ahem again> areas for concern... :-|
          I too defend the institution (vehemently) as would many - but I really meant the decision makers; not those who 'just' fund it.

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          • An_Inspector_Calls

            #95
            Originally posted by handsomefortune View Post
            £3.5bn raised from the licence fee.

            gasp! that certainly puts the beeb's 'commercial fashion' into a very different perspective! apologies for my naivety but why, in your opinion inspector calls, does the bbc have to compete?

            increasingly, people tend not to subscribe to theories such as 'low salaries' automatically 'equal dross' . . .
            The BBC derives a significant part of it's budget from profits on global programme sales. In that sense it has to compete, and thus behave as a commercial organization.

            I am not aware of any trend which detaches reward level from applicant track record, experience, proven skills and education; those qualities remain core competencies which raise the value of the applicant. Indeed, in some areas of employment, to neglect selection along those lines may expose the organization to risk of future prosecution in the event of an accident.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37642

              #96
              Originally posted by An_Inspector_Calls View Post
              in some areas of employment, to neglect selection along those lines may expose the organization to risk of future prosecution in the event of an accident.
              Bit of a long shot, that, AIC.

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              • amateur51

                #97
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Bit of a long shot, that, AIC.
                I must admit I thought that too S_A but wasn't as brave as you are to stick my neck out first

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                • Lateralthinking1

                  #98
                  Originally posted by An_Inspector_Calls View Post
                  The BBC derives a significant part of it's budget from profits on global programme sales. In that sense it has to compete, and thus behave as a commercial organization.

                  I am not aware of any trend which detaches reward level from applicant track record, experience, proven skills and education; those qualities remain core competencies which raise the value of the applicant. Indeed, in some areas of employment, to neglect selection along those lines may expose the organization to risk of future prosecution in the event of an accident.
                  With respect, hold on just a minute AIC. You are cleverly blurring the distinction between selection criteria and payment. No one would be prosecuted for selecting unpaid volunteers if they had core competencies. When will the highly paid start volunteering?

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                  • amateur51

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                    With respect, hold on just a minute AIC. You are cleverly blurring the distinction between selection criteria and payment. No one would be prosecuted for selecting unpaid volunteers if they had core competencies. When will the highly paid start volunteering?
                    With the piles of responsibilities taken by the directors of voluntary organisations with statutory contracts these days, they are becoming analagous to NEDs, the onluy difference being that they do it for a six-weekly evening meeting and a round of sarnies

                    You still wouldn't get me to accept payment for it, however - that's what charity means

                    No wonder Francis Maude had difficulty remember his contribution to The Big Society - all his contributions are paid, I bet - except for "a lot of work for my local church"
                    Last edited by Guest; 06-07-12, 12:27. Reason: amusing trypo!

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                    • Lateralthinking1

                      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                      With the piles of responsibilities taken by the directors of voluntary organisations with statutory contracts these days, they are becoming analagous to NEDs, the onluy difference being that they do it for a six-weekly evening meeting and a round of sarnies

                      You still wouldn't get me to accept payment for it, however - that's what charity means

                      No wonder Francis Maude had difficulty remember his contribution to The Bog Society - all his contributions are paid, I bet - except for "a lot of work for my local church"
                      I knew we could count on you am51. He lives in London now. A year ago, I was a cigarette paper away from travelling down to Horsham one Sunday morning and introducing myself. With spade, trowel, chainsaw, television cameras - that sort of thing.

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                      • amateur51

                        Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                        I knew we could count on you. He lives in Central London now. A year ago, I was a cigarette paper away from travelling down to Horsham one Sunday morning and introducing myself. With spade, trowel, chainsaw, television cameras - that sort of thing.
                        Ooooh let me know next time you feel the spirit might move you, Lats.

                        I fancy a bit of direct action myself

                        And it couldn't happen to a nicer chap

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                        • Osborn

                          Er, excuse me and sorry to trouble you - I'm lost and seem to have got into your BBC moaning room by mistake. Can you tell me how to get to Barclays Bank?

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37642

                            Originally posted by Osborn View Post
                            Er, excuse me and sorry to trouble you - I'm lost and seem to have got into your BBC moaning room by mistake. Can you tell me how to get to Barclays Bank?
                            That empty lift shaft, right there, will get you there really quickly, sir.

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                            • An_Inspector_Calls

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Bit of a long shot, that, AIC.
                              Strange then that several (all?) of the engineering institutions subscribe to an competency policy - it's assumed in much H&S practice.

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by An_Inspector_Calls View Post
                                Strange then that several (all?) of the engineering institutions subscribe to an competency policy - it's assumed in much H&S practice.
                                You covered that in your caveat "in some areas of employment" perhaps, AIC?

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