Was that REALLY worth ... ?

[Guest]

... publishing?

I'm sure that every composer, if alive today, would express a wish for one or more of his/her works to be expunged from the records.

Here are some of my favourites for consignment to the waste paper basket:

Beethoven: Wellington's Victory ("Battle Symphony) and Ov. King Stephen.

Mozart: "A Musical Joke" k522

Berlioz: Hymne à la France ("La Marseillaise")

Tchaikowsky: 1812 overture and Suite Nº 4 (Mozartiana)

Ravel: Bolero

Verdi: Opera: " The Battle of Legnano"


What are your "bête noires"?

HS

[Northender]

Richard Strauß: Festmusik der Stadt Wien (sorry about that, but it DOES go on...and on...and on....)

[MrGongGong]

El................................................ ............. no no no I promised I wouldn't

[Hornspieler]

Richard Strauß: Festmusik der Stadt Wien (sorry about that, but it DOES go on...and on...and on....)

[BBMmk2]

Richard Strauß: Festmusik der Stadt Wien (sorry about that, but it DOES go on...and on...and on....)

Ono no it doesn't!! Great piece for brass!!

Tchaik's 1812 aqnd Ravel's Bolero. The ssist DoM has that out for next term to do! Yikes!!

[ahinton]

... publishing?

I'm sure that every composer, if alive today, would express a wish for one or more of his/her works to be expunged from the records.

Here are some of my favourites for consignment to the waste paper basket:

Beethoven: Wellington's Victory ("Battle Symphony) and Ov. King Stephen.

Mozart: "A Musical Joke" k522

Berlioz: Hymne à la France ("La Marseillaise")

Tchaikowsky: 1812 overture and Suite Nº 4 (Mozartiana)

Ravel: Bolero

Verdi: Opera: " The Battle of Legnano"


What are your "bête noires"?

This could - and almost certainly will - be an interesting and thoroughly entertaining thread but, before it really gets under way and runs and runs (as I expect it to do), let's first bear in mind that those composers whom you mention above, were they indeed alive today, would be raking in such fortunes from royalties on those works (except, perhaps, Verdi in the particular case that you cite) that they'd probably think twice about expunging them altogether and wish instead that they written them under pseudonyms!

Anyway, let's have a go. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 12? (I can see JLW getting ready to throw some heavy pieces of furniture at me for that!), especially since he wrote so little that's much below his best...

[Nick Armstrong]

Richard Strauß: Festmusik der Stadt Wien (sorry about that, but it DOES go on...and on...and on....)

Piffle, Northo!!

It sounded pretty damn fine in the RFH on Sunday, played by Venezuelan youngsters: by my count, 18 trumpets, 10 trombones, 9 horns, 6 tubas and a precise and enthusiastic timpanist

I've bored people here too often with my bêtes noires. Indeed I got a yellow card from SWMBO following a complaint about me "parading" my opinions about much of Liszt's output.

So as I'm on a yellow I'll just nominate the most recent.

Tchaikovsky 3

[salymap]

Isn't the Mozart Musical Joke used for the Horse of the Year Show? And 1812 would be a wonderful over- the-top Tchaik piece if played once a year.

Personaly I would cut half the length off almost anything by Bruckner, but I'm quite aware that that is considered sacrilege around here.

[ahinton]

Isn't the Mozart Musical Joke used for the Horse of the Year Show?

Is that supposed to be some kind of defensive excuse?(!)...

Personaly I would cut half the length off almost anything by Bruckner, but I'm quite aware that that is considered sacrilege around here.

Not just here! Which half, anyway? (and how would you decide on this?). I can see that Jayne Lee Wilson's going to have her work cut out here!...

[amateur51]

Bolero by Ravel is a masterpiece in my opinion.

It is just broadcast too often as a 'filler' rather than as the 'event' that it surely is.

[Petrushka]

Tchaikovsky 3

I have to agree. I've just posted on the BaL thread that it is desperately dull stuff having listened to the Karajan recording in advance of the BaL.

Life's too short to subject myself to this again.

[MrGongGong]

Bolero by Ravel is a masterpiece in my opinion.

It is just broadcast too often as a 'filler' rather than as the 'event' that it surely is.

It's also in "half a dinosaur" form a la Hirst

Personaly I would cut half the length off almost anything by Bruckner, but I'm quite aware that that is considered sacrilege around here.

So you wont be wanting to listen to my electroacoustic piece that includes my favourite 8 bars of Bruckner 7 timestretched to last an hour and a half then

[Tony Halstead]

Tchaikowsky: Suite Nº 4 (Mozartiana)

I don't agree with you on this one, HS!
I'm sure Mozart himself would have approved of this charming, delightful work.

[ahinton]

I don't agree with you on this one, HS!
I'm sure Mozart himself would have approved of this charming, delightful work.

Perhaps he might indeed have considered it to be - er - um - a musical joke...

Ah, well - the post count here's already into double figures and still no one's banned me from the forum for dissing DSCH's dirty dozenth, so maybe life's not such a bi**h after all...

[teamsaint]

Bolero by Ravel is a masterpiece in my opinion.

It is just broadcast too often as a 'filler' rather than as the 'event' that it surely is.

I agree. Its a fine, and perhaps(OK you can all beat me up) forward looking piece, that despite everything I still enjoy listening to (rather than hearing ).
Anyway, a couple of suggestions
Mendelssohn's String Symphonies. Ok he was young, but he was young when he wrote other genius stuff.
Also, The Beethoven OP 20 Septet. Well off the pace on this one.