Wimbledon

[Beef Oven]

I know this question will probably seem daft,and I have asked it before, but in these days of branding supremacy, why don't they take the proms on the road a few times each year?The right programmes could pull big crowds in Neecaastle, Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol , Cardiff etc, given the right venues.

What a horrible thought - it all has to stay in London. Besides, I like to be home by 10.45pm latest after a prom concert

[teamsaint]

What a horrible thought - it all has to stay in London. Besides, I like to be home by 10.45 latest after a prom concert

OK, fair enough. you have every chance given the short programmes often on offer !!

[Beef Oven]

OK, fair enough. you have every chance given the short programmes often on offer !!

I hadn't realised that this year's proms were short measure.

[ahinton]

What a horrible thought - it all has to stay in London. Besides, I like to be home by 10.45pm latest after a prom concert

So you don't attend late night Proms on principle, then?...

[ahinton]

I know this question will probably seem daft,and I have asked it before, but in these days of branding supremacy, why don't they take the proms on the road a few times each year?The right programmes could pull big crowds in Neecaastle, Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol , Cardiff etc, given the right venues.

Maybe so, but I'd read this side argument as one about north and south and, when last I looked, Bristol and Cardiff hardly qualify as being located in the former...

[teamsaint]

I hadn't realised that this year's proms were short measure.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/1950s/1957

[Beef Oven]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/1950s/1957

Bloody Norah, they were bleedin' long back then!

[Lateralthinking1]

'The Ferrari was too flash.......

........I'm quite a conservative driver, but when I was driving that you'd get beeped for getting out of the car'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163435/Andy-Murray-Tennis-star-hopes-right-car-pave-way-glory.html#ixzz1zvI0QAxk

(At least he is not a 'celeb' I guess)

[mercia]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/archive/search/1950s/1957

I like 3 September 1957
an overture, two concertos and a symphony all before the interval
I wonder what time some of those concerts ended

[MrGongGong]

Prom 46
Wed 11 Sept 1957, 7.30pm, Royal Albert Hall
Wagner - A Faust Overture, WWV 59 0:00:12
Wagner - Götterdämmerung 2:30:00
Wagner - Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg 4:30:00
Rachmaninov - Symphony No. 2 in E minor 1:00:00 (uncut)

which would be (without intervals !)

7 hours and 12 minutes , way past the last bus then

(I know what it REALLY means )

So a 12 hour La Monte Young piece is very much in the tradition then ?

[Northender]

Getting back to Wimbledon.....
I wonder whether the fact that Andy Murray doesn't really belong to what one might call the 'Tennis-Playing Set' (by which I mean well-bred, polite decent sorts to whom the social aspect of the game is at least as important as winning), might explain his unpopularity in certain quarters and also increase his chances of actually winning.
I loved the way he swatted aside the tactless question from Mr Richardson about his parents (who, in case Mr R hadn't noticed, were sitting well apart and clearly not communicating).

[Lateralthinking1]

Getting back to Wimbledon.....
I wonder whether the fact that Andy Murray doesn't really belong to what one might call the 'Tennis-Playing Set' (by which I mean well-bred, polite decent sorts to whom the social aspect of the game is at least as important as winning), might explain his unpopularity in certain quarters and also increase his chances of actually winning.
I loved the way he swatted aside the tactless question from Mr Richardson about his parents (who, in case Mr R hadn't noticed, were sitting well apart and clearly not communicating).

I think that is possibly right Northender. He is described in one place as having a dry sense of humour and being a little shy. I think on balance I prefer that manner than if he were socialising with Chris Evans. Lendl was actually humourless and critical of Wimbledon. The worst aspect of players is petulance but I suppose it sticks more if even later on they aren't a bundle of laughs.

Murray gets at least £575,000 for being in the final. That is possibly the only 'unreal' part of the circus he enjoys. Even then, he is relatively frugal. When Bunny Austin reached the final in 1938 he got a £5 Mappin & Webb voucher - £249 in today's money.

[amateur51]

That is certainly true, mangerton.

My old primary school teacher used to love referring to 'Kelvinsayed',

As for Murray himself he always refers to his next 'metch'. When I played football as an adorably runny-nosed and tackety-booted wee street-urchin, it was always a 'gemme' ... in the same way as an 'arena' was always a 'grun'.

Mind you, to refer to a tennis 'metch' as a 'gemme' might tend to get distinctly confusing to the posh and non-posh folk alike?

All this desperate Scottish working class identity assertion coming from a man who has lived in Wilmslow for the last 30 years

[Beef Oven]

So you don't attend late night Proms on principle, then?...

I tend not to.

[BBMmk2]

Can't wait for tomorrow aftyernoon! Aperrantly HM has kept the afternoon free!!