Your two favourite DVORAK and TCHAIKOVSKY SYMPHONIES

[Roehre]

....Be nice if they did Dvorak symphony no.1 though.
An under rated symphony. Mvt 1 and the scherzo are very good. Never ever gets played! (it is the longest symphony however!)

It really is incredible, but for his cycle Kubelik had to be convinced by DGG that "The Bells of Zlonice" was a work worth to be recorded. He himself did not think so, and that is exactly the reason why his Dvorak 1 never was released separately, either as LP or as CD. Kubelik's contract for the full cycle stipulates this.

[salymap]

And I'm ashamed to say that although my only big box is 40 Dvorak CDs I have never got round to listening to some of the early symphonies, including no 1.
It is played by the Scottish National Orchestra,conducted by Neeme Jarvi

[teamsaint]

And I'm ashamed to say that although my only big box is 40 Dvorak CDs I have never got round to listening to some of the early symphonies, including no 1.
It is played by the Scottish National Orchestra,conducted by Neeme Jarvi

That box has been a good friend to me !!Still is.

The American Suite is a big omission though .

[Nick Armstrong]

Dvorak ... Symphony no. 2 in Bb... I was - in retrospect ( although I wasn't too sure at the time) very lucky to have recorded this with Witold Rowicki. What a beautifully TUNEFUL work with 'almost too many tunes for its own good'!
a 'Philips' recording ( 1971?) in the amazingly lovely wood-panelled acoustic of Wembley Town Hall.

I have this evening got to know No 4 from your Rowicki set, triggered by hearing the scherzo the other week on CD Review in the early Neumann/Prague Supraphon issue... I spent a while comparing extracts from the Czech recordings, other classics (Kubeilk, leaden-footed, not feroce, in the scherzo ... Kertesz...) but plumped for the Rowicki. What lovely sound and playing and interpretation!

I have the original CD issue of the Rowicki box here .... It's a special set for me - thanks to you and the orchestra for giving these to us.

I can completely see why you say that jayne.

I can't stop listening to this! Stunning sound!

I must now czech out / cheque out No 2, Tony !!

[kea]

Dvořák 2, 5, 7 and the first three movements of 8

Tchaikovsky third movement of 6

I think that's right anyway

Dvořák's 1st also does not deserve its reputation for excessive length, OK maybe there are a few passages in the first and slow movements that are slightly too long, but it's only about 45 minutes—the same length as (or shorter than) any of Tchaikovsky's and Brahms's.

[Pabmusic]

Here's mine, two of each:

Antonin:

New World
Symphony 4 (except maybe for the last movement, but Neemi Jarvi is sufficiently 'driving'.

Pyotr:

Symphony 5
Symphony 6

[Nick Armstrong]

Antonin: ... Symphony 4 (except maybe for the last movement, but Neemi Jarvi is sufficiently 'driving'.)[/INDENT]

I'm glad you give it a shout too, Pablo. Yes, the 4th movement comes last in both senses, but the rest (despite the obvious Wagner 'atmos' at the start of the slow movement ... Dvorak takes over, and anyway the LSO lower register instrument colours are a delight in themselves, in that Rowicki performance)

[Pabmusic]

I'm glad you give it a shout too, Pablo. Yes, the 4th movement comes last in both senses, but the rest (despite the obvious Wagner 'atmos' at the start of the slow movement ... Dvorak takes over, and anyway the LSO lower register instrument colours are a delight in themselves, in that Rowicki performance)

Not only Wagner, but in the slow movement definite pre-echoes of the broad "holy spirit" melody (or whatever - it's in the prelude) from Elgar's The Kingdom.

[Tevot]

Hello there;

I would plump for the following symphonies :-


Dvorak: 7 & 9 (I will, however, revisit his earlier ones thanks to Jayne's advocacy)

Tchaik: Manfred & 6

Best Wishes,

Tevot

[cloughie]

The choice is difficult from the very top flight of Symphonies.

DVORAK: 6 & 5
TCHAIK: 4 & Manfred

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

"Favourites"?

Dvorak #6
Tchaikovsky #1

[cloughie]

"Favourites"?

Dvorak #6
Tchaikovsky #1

Easier than choosing Brahms then, ferney?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Easier than choosing Brahms then, ferney?

- very much so: fond as I am of both Symphonists, I don't think either comes close in standard to those of Brahms (or Beethoven, Bruckner, Haydn, Mozart or Mahler). It's easier for me to cherry pick with most of the 19th Century Symphony composers.

[antongould]

"Favourites"?

Dvorak #6
Tchaikovsky #1

Me too

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

- very much so: fond as I am of both Symphonists, I don't think either comes close in standard to those of Brahms (or Beethoven, Bruckner, Haydn, Mozart or Mahler).

I would agree on some of these, but...