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  • teamsaint
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 25236

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    I wasn't aware of that box.

    Just bought one

    At £1.60 a disc, be daft not to.

    Merci bien Monsieur LeBoeuf
    In fact quite rude. Bit like ignoring entertainment (such as football matches) provided by the locals when on holiday abroad.The height of bad manners,I always think.
    (saving my dosh for other projects, though...)
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      As previously mentioned on this thread, Carl Schuricht.

      Currently playing Bruckner Symphony #3, Wiener Philharmoniker, Carl Schuricht. Recorded December 1965. EMI.

      Astonishing performance (and sound)!




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      • amateur51

        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        [SIZE=2]As previously mentioned on this thread, Carl Schuricht.

        Currently playing Bruckner Symphony #3, Wiener Philharmoniker, Carl Schuricht. Recorded December 1965. EMI.

        Astonishing performance (and sound)!
        I agree and the Beethoven cycle is very intersting too, given the French orchestra (Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire (the predecessor of the Orchestre de Paris) and the early 1950s recordings.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20576

          Horst Stein.

          To bore you all to death - a quite superb five star Alpine Symphony.
          And I have a VPO/Stein Decca Wagner Overtures LP that I treasure.

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          • Karafan
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 786

            The Bamberg one, Alpie?
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Horst Stein.

            To bore you all to death - a quite superb five star Alpine Symphony.
            And I have a VPO/Stein Decca Wagner Overtures LP that I treasure.
            "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
              I agree and the Beethoven cycle is very intersting too, given the French orchestra (Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire (the predecessor of the Orchestre de Paris) and the early 1950s recordings.
              Indeed.

              I played the Beethoven symphonies a few months back and having only played them through twice, I must go back to them more often

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20576

                Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                The Bamberg one, Alpie?
                That's the one. However, I have doubts about the wind machine. It sounds too much like a recorded windstorm.

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12369

                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Horst Stein.

                  To bore you all to death - a quite superb five star Alpine Symphony.
                  And I have a VPO/Stein Decca Wagner Overtures LP that I treasure.
                  I have that Bamberg Alpensinfonie and it is indeed superb. I remember Horst Stein from his 1970s broadcasts from the Bayreuth Festival. There are also fine performances of Bruckner 2 & 6 with the VPO on the Eloquence label.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • mathias broucek
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1303

                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    I have that Bamberg Alpensinfonie and it is indeed superb. I remember Horst Stein from his 1970s broadcasts from the Bayreuth Festival. There are also fine performances of Bruckner 2 & 6 with the VPO on the Eloquence label.
                    He also did some more-than-decent Sibelius with the Suisse Romande.

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                    • Thropplenoggin
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1587

                      Paul Kletzki.
                      It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                      • HighlandDougie
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3115

                        Originally posted by mathias broucek View Post
                        He also did some more-than-decent Sibelius with the Suisse Romande.
                        As in



                        Quite possibly the most exciting 'En Saga' ever committed to disc.

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          Listening to this at the moment...........

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                          • amateur51

                            I don't think that Cantelli is misunderstood, neglected or ignored. He died at a very early age, and left behind a reasonable legacy of wonderful studio recordings but that's that. Most of the off-air recordings duplicate the studio recordings. A bit like Ataulfo Argenta who appeared & disappeared like a comet in the firmament (there's poetic for you)

                            I think that EMI's ICON box of Cantelli's recordings is a winner

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                            • Ferretfancy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3487

                              Originally posted by Simon B View Post
                              Very much delayed pedantry this - but the one and only Proms performance (2007?) of Ilya Muromets was conducted by Vassily Sinaisky, not Yuri Temirkanov. He was interviewed somewhere and commented to the effect that his interest in the piece was spurred by Edward Downes' recording with the same orchestra (BBC Phil). The interpretations were very similar and did make as convincing a job of the piece (which does stretch its material to breaking point in places) as there's likely to be.

                              Anyway, I'll get me coat...
                              Whoops ! My most vivid memory of that Prom was that we were forced to stand right in front of the piano for the Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini in the first half due to a massive camera platform taking up our normal Arena spot. the opening piano chord nearly stunned me! Luckily we were able to move back a bit for the Gliere,

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                              • gamba
                                Late member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 575

                                Me - When I was about 12yrs & especially so with the Egmont Overture helping this guy Sargent along, great stuff !!

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