Misunderstood/neglected/ignored conductors

[gurnemanz]

It is surely a mystery why Carl Schuricht is so neglected as a conductor, and even as a Bruckner conductor too.

Bruckner 9 Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra

I have good Brahms Double with the Dresden Philharmonic who were conducted by a couple more neglectees - Carl von Garaguly who did a good Sibelius cycle. I saw him live once in Leipzig. Herbert Kegel, a considerable musician who sadly committed suicide and Günther Herbig who fled East Germany and worked all over the place including BBC Northern and according to Wiki is still going strong at 81, guest conducting Taiwan.

[Beef Oven]

I have good Brahms Double with the Dresden Philharmonic who were conducted by a couple more neglectees - Carl von Garaguly who did a good Sibelius cycle. I saw him live once in Leipzig. Herbert Kegel, a considerable musician who sadly committed suicide and Günther Herbig who fled East Germany and worked all over the place including BBC Northern and according to Wiki is still going strong at 81, guest conducting Taiwan.

Haven't heard of those guys. You were fortunate to see Carl von Garaguly (great name!) in Leipzig.

[gurnemanz]

Haven't heard of those guys. You were fortunate to see Carl von Garaguly (great name!) in Leipzig.

Hans Swarowsky came to mind for some reason. One of those professor/conductors who tends not to hit the headlines, maybe with justification - solid but unexciting. I found a Gewandhaus programme from December 1974 - Mathis der Maler Symphony and Bruckner 5. The notes tell us he was born in 1899 and studied composition with Schoenberg, Webern and Eisler and conducting with R Strauss and Weingartner. In Wiki I discover that his students at the Music Academy in Vienna included Abbado, Sinopoli, Ivan Fischer and Zubin Mehta and that he was dead within a year of that concert we saw in Leipzig.

[Beef Oven]

Hans Swarowsky came to mind for some reason. One of those professor/conductors who tends not to hit the headlines, maybe with justification - solid but unexciting. I found a Gewandhaus programme from December 1974 - Mathis der Maler Symphony and Bruckner 5. The notes tell us he was born in 1899 and studied composition with Schoenberg, Webern and Eisler and conducting with R Strauss and Weingartner. In Wiki I discover that his students at the Music Academy in Vienna included Abbado, Sinopoli, Ivan Fischer and Zubin Mehta and that he was dead within a year of that concert we saw in Leipzig.

From where he was taught, to who he taught, an impressive CV. A recording deal and an agent might have helped

[gradus]

Leif Segerstam, Jean Morel, Hans Richard Stracke, Jean Fournet, Paul Angerer.
All on LPs I own, but I've never heard them in concert.

[gradus]

Havegesse anyone? A day late.

[ahinton]

Havegesse anyone? A day late.

Ah, yes; quite a coup(e)! I have often wondered, however, why a certain distinguished English soprano appears never to have contemplated legal action against the egregious WB-C for his invention of "Homer Lott"...

[scottycelt]

Haven't heard of those guys. You were fortunate to see Carl von Garaguly (great name!) in Leipzig.

Oh yes, Herbig appeared as guest conductor with the BBC PHIL fairly regularly in the 80s/90s as did Bernhard Klee. Both conducted some memorable performances, particularly in Bruckner.

With Stan Skrow as Chief at the Halle in the '80s what wonderful, incomparable years these were for Mancunian Brucknerians ... at the time, they maybe didn't realise quite how spoilt they were.

[Roehre]

Oh yes, Herbig appeared as guest conductor with the BBC PHIL fairly regularly in the 80s/90s as did Bernhard Klee. Both conducted some memorable performances, particularly in Bruckner.

AFAIK it was Herbig who first performed Bruckner 8 in its first (1887) version, even before Volume VIII/1. of the Anton Bruckner Werke Ausgabe had been released officially, in the late 1970s.

Bernard Klee contributed to the 1970 DGG 12-multi-LP-sets Beethoven Edition with the music for Die Ruinen von Athen op.113 and extracts of Prometheus with the BPO, but not many recordings of his have appeared since (either on DGG or elsewhere)

[Alison]

Has Paul Watkins given up conducting ?

[Simon B]

Has anybody mentioned Yuri Temirkanov?... ... Temirkanov gave a stunning performance of Gliere's Iya Mourometz at the Proms a few years ago, managing this rather prolix but fascinating piece without any of the cuts than some conductors introduce and making it completely convincing.

Very much delayed pedantry this - but the one and only Proms performance (2007?) of Ilya Muromets was conducted by Vassily Sinaisky, not Yuri Temirkanov. He was interviewed somewhere and commented to the effect that his interest in the piece was spurred by Edward Downes' recording with the same orchestra (BBC Phil). The interpretations were very similar and did make as convincing a job of the piece (which does stretch its material to breaking point in places) as there's likely to be.

Anyway, I'll get me coat...

[teamsaint]

Has Paul Watkins given up conducting ?

Had a concert lined up for February.

http://imgartists.com/news/paul_watkins_premieres_two_works_by_piers_hellawell/

[Beef Oven]

Playing Brahms symphony #1, Philharmonia Orchesrta, Guido Cantelli.

A most neglected conductor.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Icon-Guido-Cantelli/dp/B006LZN3ES/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1365018191&sr=1-1

[Nick Armstrong]

Playing Brahms symphony #1, Philharmonia Orchesrta, Guido Cantelli.

A most neglected conductor.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Icon-Guido-Cantelli/dp/B006LZN3ES/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1365018191&sr=1-1

I wasn't aware of that box.

Just bought one

At £1.60 a disc, be daft not to.

Merci bien Monsieur LeBoeuf

[Beef Oven]

I wasn't aware of that box.

Just bought one

At £1.60 a disc, be daft not to.

Merci bien Monsieur LeBoeuf

enjoy