The Queen's Jubilee

[teamsaint]

No!
Best bit of the whole weekend.

Its a round about (and expensive ) way of producing a great version of a good hymn.

[Lateralthinking1]

In other words, your last post was just a load of hypocritical, sanctimonious rodomontade. Well, what a surprise.

No not really. The original word was "eat", not "buy". Contrary perhaps to impressions, I am occasionally bought lunch. But I didn't take offence at any of the assumptions.

[handsomefortune]

the appalling work conditions and slave labor deemed 'normal' by many private uk businesses eager to exploit the unemployed for their own profit, needs a much higher media profile. let's just pray news of this weekend's exploitation at the jubilee celebrations (by a private security company) provides wide spread condemnation, and massive media coverage.

uncovering these news stories is the only thing preventing increasing exploitation of people, as the coalition is fully aware, allows this situation to exist.

the public might just ask, what sort of 'security' might complete beginners, forced to attend the jubilee, actually provide exactly? (bearing in mind shops, and now the nhs are beginning to exploit 'free labor' too)? people might like to consider the possibility that everyone is made more vulnerable, as a direct result of this disgusting US style approach, what amounts to a short cut to private profit.

(well done those who had the bottle to speak to the press, albeit anonymously, they had more courage than many realise).

[Serial_Apologist]

This is concerning. I wonder what HM would think if she is ever told. Rather takes the gloss off the whole day - or the remaining bits that the BBC did not manage to scrape off.

Yes indeed - and the lady who runs the charity that services "security firms" that provide personnel for said events did not answer the question as to her position on what happened, merely repeating that her charity supported government schemes supporting the "security sector". Guess what? The R4 1 pm newscaster obsequiously soft pedalling this line of questioning never challenged her either.

[amateur51]

In other words, your last post was just a load of hypocritical, sanctimonious rodomontade. Well, what a surprise.

Better than sesquipedalian piffle - who do you think you are, Will Self?

[Nick Armstrong]

In other words, your last post was just a load of hypocritical, sanctimonious rodomontade. Well, what a surprise.

Do you realise how pompous and unpleasant a comment like that is? I think it's a shame you consider it appropriate.

[Serial_Apologist]

the appalling work conditions and slave labor deemed 'normal' by many private uk businesses eager to exploit the unemployed for their own profit, needs a much higher media profile. let's just pray news of this weekend's exploitation at the jubilee celebrations (by a private security company) provides wide spread condemnation, and massive media coverage.

uncovering these news stories is the only thing preventing increasing exploitation of people, as the coalition is fully aware, allows this situation to exist.

the public might just ask, what sort of 'security' might complete beginners, forced to attend the jubilee, actually provide exactly? (bearing in mind shops, and now the nhs are beginning to exploit 'free labor' too)? people might like to consider the possibility that everyone is made more vulnerable, as a direct result of this disgusting US style approach, what amounts to a short cut to private profit.

(well done those who had the bottle to speak to the press, albeit anonymously, they had more courage than many realise).

Labor???

I'd never realised (realized?) you were from the States, Ms Handsome!

But I still however agree with what you say.

[handsomefortune]

soz for yanky sp s-a, (unusually), i used the sp chuck - i am livid.... it's best to be understood especially when you're deranged with rage.

'charity' my backside..... at least the entrepreneurs of the british empire didn't pretend the slave trade was for 'charity'!

let's hope winefred robinson has more bottle on 'you and yours'? i wouldn't hold my breath as far as 'woman's hour' being that fussed about uk unemployed women having to strip in public, or sleep under bridges. dame jenny's probably all for it - (as long as your underwear matches). unfortunately, these uk people working at the jubilee fall half way.... are not sensationalist enough, (ie wh 'fascinating' repeat coverage of sex workers, and trafficked women). however, these 'plain' un-newsworthy people are unfortunately repeatedly omitted from wh's current shakey grasp of sexual politics.....which is quite literally

'post

feminism' ....move goal posts accordingly. or often missing completely, presumed lost in the post?

Do you realise how pompous and unpleasant a comment like that is? I think it's a shame you consider it appropriate.

apparently not. sad but true caliban. i should think he/she probably regrets it in hindsight.

who do you think you are, Will Self? rodomontade ... a summer 2012 cocktail?

[french frank]

In other words, your last post was just a load of hypocritical, sanctimonious rodomontade. Well, what a surprise.

Oh, come on, Panjanders. That's a bit unnecessary.

Many of us do have principles when it comes to where we shop and what we buy. They are our principles and in a complex globalised world of commodification we can't be 100% perfect. But some of us do what we can and others aren't bothered

[LeMartinPecheur]

...the usual knee-jerk juvenalia.

Mr Pee: do please update us on what dear Decimus Brutus had to say on the subject...

...though my dictionary does give 'lurid and denunciatory rather than humorous' as a secondary meaning for 'juvenalian', which cap might fit some heads round here

[Panjandrum]

FF, I apologise if my last remark seemed a bit harsh. However, some posters put me in mind of those who are always first to say how much they give to charity. It rather undermines the effect, all this holier than thou stuff, don't you think? That's why I said that if Lateral Thinking wants to come on all superior to the rest of us, then s/he needs to demonstrate how s/he has never purchased anything with a dodgy pedigree (e.g. made in China; non FairTrade coffee/cotton products/chocolate/wine etc). Those of us who are Sky subscribers are getting more than a little fed up with being made out to having fewer scruples than one of Genghis Khan's more enthusiastic henchmen.

[scottycelt]

This is concerning. I wonder what HM would think if she is ever told. Rather takes the gloss off the whole day - or the remaining bits that the BBC did not manage to scrape off.

Hmmm ... looks like the shabby mirror-image of a Daily Mail story ... in other words, heavily pandering to its core readership by putting a particular political slant on a story which in reality has probably a perfectly reasonable explanation.

The Right & Left press are just as bad as each other in that regard ... neither is to be trusted.

[amateur51]

FF, I apologise if my last remark seemed a bit harsh. However, some posters put me in mind of those who are always first to say how much they give to charity. It rather undermines the effect, all this holier than thou stuff, don't you think? That's why I said that if Lateral Thinking wants to come on all superior to the rest of us, then s/he needs to demonstrate how s/he has never purchased anything with a dodgy pedigree (e.g. made in China; non FairTrade coffee/cotton products/chocolate/wine etc).

I have never identified the unpleasant attitudes that you ascribe to Lat's posts. He always comes across to me as thoughtful in his arguments, prepared to take on board an alternative view, and careful of the feelings of others in expressing his thoughts, something that I should like to emulate more often, perhaps

[vinteuil]

Lunch sounds quite tasty:

"The royal parties then journeyed to a City of London Livery companies lunch at Westminster Hall where they will dine on salmon, followed by Welsh lamb, grilled Isle of Wight asparagus, Jersey Royal potatoes and chocolate delice, bread and butter pudding and berry compote with apple sauce."

Wonder what they were having to drink with it? Chablis, then a nice Bordeaux (?), what for the pudding wine? Armagnac to finish.

But they'll probably go for Commonwealth wines, come to think of it ... Oh, well.

with the canapés there was Nyetimber 2007 English Sparkling.
with the salmon, a 2011 sancerre
with the lamb, a ch cap de faugères côte-de-castillon 2007

[amateur51]

Hmmm ... looks like the shabby mirror-image of a Daily Mail story ... in other words, heavily pandering to its core readership by putting a particular political slant on a story which in reality has probably a perfectly reasonable explanation.

The Right & Left press are just as bad as each other in that regard ... neither is to be trusted.

Aside from that particular bee in your wee bonnet scotty (I note that you choose to poke fun in your 'thesis' at two 'left-leaning' papers - such as passes for balance in Auchtermuchty I assume ), what about the story itself?

No shred of truth possible?

Never heard of anything like it before?