The Queen's Jubilee

[MrGongGong]

Might i say to the Republicans on thesse b oards, look hopw muchPresidenceys cost the tax payer as to the M ornachy. A Repub;lic will be a more costly venture to this country and also will touroism suffer as a result ofno Mornachy?

Is this an entry for the "non sequitur of the day" competition ?

So the Lydon defence then ?

[MrGongGong]

I'm sure that a workable definition of 'rest of us' will be along soon

I thought we were all individuals in your best of all possible worlds, scotty

[ahinton]

Might i say to the Republicans on thesse b oards, look hopw muchPresidenceys cost the tax payer as to the M ornachy. A Repub;lic will be a more costly venture to this country and also will touroism suffer as a result ofno Mornachy?

Whilst I take your point, it is only fair to say that it is, in itself, overly simplistic. Those who advocate ths dissolution of the British monarchy do not necessarily all (a) wish to see its replacement by a presidency or (b) do so merely because they rightly or wrongly perceive it to be more costly to the taxpayer than any alternative; apart from any other factors, a proper consideration of what might fuel (b) is inherently problematic to the extent of sufficiently detailed accounts being unavailable for all that would enable the comparison and contrasting of the incomes and expenditures generated respectively by a monarchy, a presidency or some alternative to either; for example, do you have incontrovertible facts and figures at your personal disposal with which you can demonstrate year on year precisely how much net income is generated by tourism in Britain as a sole and direct consequence of the existence of its monarchy? - indeed, does anyone?

[Flosshilde]

as to my charge of the "inanely tautological", it arises from the notion that the words "all hitherto existing" could be removed from the sentence without any consequent alteration of its intended meaning, hence "the history of society is the history of class struggle".

Perhaps it might be blamed on the translation from the German original?

[amateur51]

Might i say to the Republicans on thesse b oards, look hopw muchPresidenceys cost the tax payer as to the M ornachy. A Repub;lic will be a more costly venture to this country and also will touroism suffer as a result ofno Mornachy?

Ah the old 'price of everything but the value of nothing' scenario.

This is pure speculation - unless you have some calculations to hand?

[Flosshilde]

Might i say to the Republicans on thesse b oards, look hopw muchPresidenceys cost the tax payer as to the M ornachy. A Repub;lic will be a more costly venture to this country and also will touroism suffer as a result ofno Mornachy?

Rather a sweeping claim with no evidence to support it.

[ahinton]

On a number of occasions I have referred to a need to consider what might happen if the Union dissolves during the reign of the present Queen; I had not realised until you posted the above picture that Wales had already severed its connections with the rest of what was the UK, so please forgive my shear ignorance and woolly-mindedness about how the Welsh have already given the British monarchy the chop, had Republicanism ram-med down their throats and been led like lambs to the presidential slaughter. Ah, well...

[BBMmk2]

Well did used to know, but per head of tax paying publoic, 1p in the poundI think?

[ahinton]

Perhaps it might be blamed on the translation from the German original?

Perhaps it might, but you'd have thought that some proof-reader or other would have noticed this anomaly at some point over the many years since that translation was made, would you not?

[ahinton]

Well did used to know, but per head of tax paying publoic, 1p in the poundI think?

If this is supposedly an attempt to answer what the cost of the British monarchy is to the British taxpayer, it's simply not good enough, I'm afraid. Firstly, you would need to reveal the accounts that prove it and, secondly (and perhaps more importantly), you'd need to be able to campare it to the income that you allege is generated by the existence of the monarchy in order to ascertain whether it gives rise to a net economic gain or loss.

[scottycelt]

I'm sure that a workable definition of 'rest of us' will be along soon

I thought we were all individuals in your best of all possible worlds, scotty

It's 'groups', man, 'groups' ... in the name of all we groupies, have you never heard of 'The Rest of Us Group'? ... do keep up! ...

[heliocentric]

Rather a sweeping claim with no evidence to support it.

Especially the old one about tourism... out of the ten most visited countries in the world (France, USA, China, Spain, Italy, UK, Turkey, Germany, Malaysia and Mexico, in that order), three are constitutional monarchies and the rest are republics, including the top three. These are the facts, for what they're worth, not very much to some around here, it seems.

[BBMmk2]

If this is supposedly an attempt to answer what the cost of the British monarchy is to the British taxpayer, it's simply not good enough, I'm afraid. Firstly, you would need to reveal the accounts that prove it and, secondly (and perhaps more importantly), you'd need to be able to campare it to the income that you allege is generated by the existence of the monarchy in order to ascertain whether it gives rise to a net economic gain or loss.

Point taken. There was a programme on the BBC, but I cannot remember which one now?

[amateur51]

Well did used to know, but per head of tax paying publoic, 1p in the poundI think?

Oh I read 7p/capita only the other day ...

Any further offers?

I always wanted a spell in the Treasury

[eighthobstruction]

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