The Queen's Jubilee

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The word "outdated" is often used as a weapon, as is "old-fashioned".

But what is fashion, other than bullying by a pressure group or a vested interest?

[MrGongGong]

[Flosshilde]

Your attitude is reminiscent of the bus driver who refused to carry a passenger on the last bus of the day because she was 20p short of her £5.00 fare and the bus didn't accept card payments...

Sorry, ahinton, the connection of the above with the post you were replying to passes me by. Could you explain (in words of one sylable, if you think it neccessary )?

[amateur51]

The word "outdated" is often used as a weapon, as is "old-fashioned".

But what is fashion, other than bullying by a pressure group or a vested interest?

You're not having a go at HIPP again are you EA?

[Quarky]

Proper tea is theft innit

Seem to be drawn into this thread against my will. But I have tracked down the reference to tea/theft:

http://simfin.wordpress.com/copyright/proper-tea-is-theft/

However neighbourhood watch schemes may be a partial remedy:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9318753/Neighbourhood-watch-to-tackle-baboon-burglaries.html

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

You're not having a go at HIPP again are you EA?

No. HIPP is an ideology. Fashion is the habit of sheep.

[Beef Oven]

No. HIPP is an ideology. Fashion is the habit of sheep.

Jeez, I'm not a sheep in sheep's clothing!

[Serial_Apologist]

I think that the proud people of Spain have enough trouble on their plate just at the moment without my denigrating them or advocating on their behalf, french frank

I'll just carry on ordering from www.amazon.es as my way of supporting them

Subtly put, Ams

[Nick Armstrong]

Jeez, I'm not a sheep in sheep's clothing!

More like a fox in a hen coop

[Beef Oven]

More like a fox in a hen coop

Expect a letter from my solicitor.

P.S. Yes he's just been re-accredited

P.P.S. That complaint about practicing out of date law was a trumped up charge made by jealous competitors.

[gurnemanz]

I suddenly remembered a song I enjoyed very much aged nearly four http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxDyNz26CHw

I also had one of these - now going for about £800 on ebay http://www.museumoflondonprints.com/image.php?id=433653

[MrGongGong]

I suddenly remembered a song I enjoyed very much aged nearly four http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxDyNz26CHw

But now you aren't "nearly four" ?

[Nick Armstrong]

Expect a letter from my solicitor.

P.S. Yes he's just been re-accredited

P.P.S. That complaint about practicing out of date law was a trumped up charge made by jealous competitors.

Bring it on!

[french frank]

Subtly put, Ams

Too subtly for me ... . Unless you're blaming the Spanish monarchy for the country's economic situation?

For those who recently pointed to comments made about the military's loyalty to the monarchy, I meant here that the Spanish example showed the military's first loyalty was to its generals. And history shows that the monarchy is naturally on the side of the people - not the powerful.

The monarchy-democracy debate is complex. To me democracy is first about having a democratic voting system.

[My back injury, btw, sustained during last year's struggle towards a small step in the direction of greater democracy, is now almost completely mended, thank you very much . If the result is anything to go by, most people here either didn't vote at all or voted against it on the grounds that they preferred things (however marginally) as they are. Soit! ]

[ahinton]

Well scotty, just in my lifetime (1951- to date) we have seen a massive change in social attitudes to, say divorce, abortion, lesbian & gay rights to name but three.

So I remain both optimistic for change and thoroughly fed-up with the amount of effort and time devoted to bolstering up an outdated institution and that is required to get people like you up to speed

Back to the lemon tea

Well, doesn't that risk undermining your own argument here, if I may ask? Those social changes have indeed taken place during the Queen's reign but might not the fact that she nevertheless still is the Queen suggest that she and the institution itself are perhaps rather less incapable of going with the flow than some anti-monarchists might them to be?