The Queen's Jubilee

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Orb and Sceptre was more appropriate on this occasion than Crown Imperial, as iw as the latter that Sir William composed for the Queen's coronation. The "big tune" seemes to have been a favourite of the composer's since he recycled it with slight modifications in two other marches - The Battle of Britain March (for the film) and March for The History of the English Speaking Peoples".

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
      And..........or is my memory misleading me?.......there should be a verse for choir only, with the melody in the tenor part.
      I also enjoyed having real (ie non-military) brass players.
      Verse 2 is for choir only, and verse 3 for choir and trumpet.
      Verse 4 is a choir verse too, but the tenors get the melody.

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      • VodkaDilc

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Orb and Sceptre was more appropriate on this occasion than Crown Imperial, as iw as the latter that Sir William composed for the Queen's coronation. The "big tune" seems to have been a favourite of the composer's since he recycled it with slight modifications in two other marches - The Battle of Britain March (for the film) and March for The History of the English Speaking Peoples".
        Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the exception of the bland new commission, wasn't O&S the most recent music in the service? At 60 years old, and wonderful as it is, I might have hoped for something more contemporary at some point.

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        • french frank
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          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          So boring to have 2 Gongs, Pee and Am51 derail yet another thread with their kindergarten antics. Personally, I think FF should be waving the yellow card at these three.

          This morning's service at St Paul's contained music that might actually have been of some passing interest to those on this Forum, especially after the inanities of the previous two days offerings.

          Has no-one got anything of interest to say?
          I agree with the spirit of this post. I don't publicly wave yellow cards but is doesn't mean I don't now and again sidle up and slip them into people's top pockets.

          However, a new thread with thoughts about the music would probably appeal to those who do have an interest in music.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Curalach

            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
            'Auchtermuchty? Wear the fox hat?'".
            Mangerton, I like the Fox Hat joke very much. I did however once tell it to a group of worthies from Campbeltown at a 65th birthday party. Turned out they were all keen Kirk-goers. We are talking deafening silence, a tumbleweed moment! . . . . and some fell on stoney ground.

            As far as the Jubbly is concerned, how much more dignified it would have been if it had been restricted to todays Service, procession and balcony appearance.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              I agree with the spirit of this post. I don't publicly wave yellow cards but is doesn't mean I don't now and again sidle up and slip them into people's top pockets.

              However, a new thread with thoughts about the music would probably appeal to those who do have an interest in music.


              (i'm getting a new suit like this one .................)




              you need big pockets for all the cards

              nothing wrong with a bit of banter about the jubbly surely ?

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              • Mr Pee
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                • Nov 2010
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                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                So boring to have 2 Gongs, Pee and Am51 derail yet another thread with their kindergarten antics. Personally, I think FF should be waving the yellow card at these three.

                This morning's service at St Paul's contained music that might actually have been of some passing interest to those on this Forum, especially after the inanities of the previous two days offerings.

                Has no-one got anything of interest to say?
                You'll no doubt be amazed to hear that I agree with you. I'm afraid I am guilty of rising to Am and GG's bait. They seem to take great pleasure in provoking a response. I really should learn to ignore them. Or perhaps I shall just put them on ignore.

                But, getting back to the music:-

                I do love the VW Old Hundredth arrangement. It never fails to make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. But I must take issue with this disparaging comment:-

                Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                I also enjoyed having real (ie non-military) brass players.
                I'm not sure on what way military brass players are not real. Many of the players in our Military Bands also play in top brass bands, most play in orchestras when they get the opportunity, and when I was in the RAF most of our players were ex music college; and one was a previous Young Musician of the Year Brass category winner, losing out to Natalie Klien in the 94 final.

                I have performed the VW Old Hundredth in Wesminster Abbey with RAF Bands on a number of oaccasions, and the brass playing was as "real" as you could wish. I also think the RAF Fanfare team did a very fine job at this morning's service.
                Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                Mark Twain.

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                • handsomefortune

                  more dignified it would have been if it had been restricted to todays Service, procession and balcony appearance.

                  agreed, rather than the extended media excess, financial cost, and restrictions to many resources.

                  apparently no room for common sense, or dignity though unfortunately curalach.

                  i'm afraid i fiind the pictures of the tackier boats posted, look like a bizarre offshore ratner's jewelry sale .... mind you at least mr ratner (eventually) admitted his produce was 'tacky'. (there's the difference)!

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                    You'll no doubt be amazed to hear that I agree with you. I'm afraid I am guilty of rising to Am and GG's bait. They seem to take great pleasure in provoking a response. .
                    That's because you are such good value peester

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                      But I must take issue with this disparaging comment:-

                      I'm not sure on what way military brass players are not real. Many of the players in our Military Bands also play in top brass bands, most play in orchestras when they get the opportunity, and when I was in the RAF most of our players were ex music college; and one was a previous Young Musician of the Year Brass category winner, losing out to Natalie Klien in the 94 final.

                      I have performed the VW Old Hundredth in Wesminster Abbey with RAF Bands on a number of oaccasions, and the brass playing was as "real" as you could wish. I also think the RAF Fanfare team did a very fine job at this morning's service.
                      Quite so.

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                      • VodkaDilc

                        My comment was meant in a light-hearted way and was not meant to cause offence. I found the lack of uniforms in general at St Paul's very refreshing; the royal gentlemen really look OK in suits. Transported by cars too (even if they were posh ones) - and not a horse and cart in sight.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                            not a horse and cart in sight.
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • scottycelt

                              Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                              My comment was meant in a light-hearted way and was not meant to cause offence. I found the lack of uniforms in general at St Paul's very refreshing; the royal gentlemen really look OK in suits. Transported by cars too (even if they were posh ones) - and not a horse and cart in sight.
                              Actually, I suspect the great attraction of the British Monarchy to people throughout the world is that its members do not generally appear in Tesco suits (or M&S frocks) on state occasions, and are often seen driven by beautifully-groomed horses and carts rather than limousines. Our lot tend to leave thoroughly boring and everyday mundane things to the common foreign and avowedly republican hoi-polloi like US Presidents.

                              Alternatively, of course, they could stand on balconies, in actual combat gear, and closely inspect goose-stepping troops and tanks parade before them ...

                              Take your pick!

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                              • MrGongGong
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                                Take your pick!
                                in the words (albeit slightly misquoted !!!) of your compatriot Mr Welsh

                                " I chose somethin' else."

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