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  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7988

    #76
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    I imagine that the answer to this would depend upon the size of the pinhead, the sizes of each angel's feet (assuming that they have any) and the desire of any angels to do this in the first place; that said, you didn't actually specify (although I assume that you may have meant to do so) that the angels of indeterminate number would, in your conjectural scenario, be dancing or seeking to dance on a pinhead simultaneously, for it would seem that a far larger mumber might be able to do this one after the other. It might even depend also upon whether the music to be danced to was Liszt's piano sonata or something by Elgar...



    Did Elgar write music that can be danced to; & if so, did he intend people to dance to it? As the highest authority, presumably, on his own music, did he say anything on the subject? If not, are people being presumptuous in dancing to it, if they do?

    I assume that he can deal with any angels presuming to dance to his music himself.

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 37920

      #77
      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post


      Did Elgar write music that can be danced to; & if so, did he intend people to dance to it? As the highest authority, presumably, on his own music, did he say anything on the subject? If not, are people being presumptuous in dancing to it, if they do?

      I assume that he can deal with any angels presuming to dance to his music himself.
      Well, Elgar did compose an overture which he titled "Alassio, In the South". Now, we all know that folk music is often danced to; that girls in folk songs are sometimes described as "lassies", and that Elgar once described himself as Folk Music. From this one might deduce that "Alassio" could be code for "A ("fair"?) Lassie-O", hinting that the composer had alternative options besides military marching, riding or cycling over the Malverns to choose from, when wishing to move to his music.

      All this could, of course, be conjecture...

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25238

        #78
        Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
        'On balance, I rather prefer Tchaikovsky, but what did he know about music? ' ... he replies, in a typically gentle manner ...
        well we all have those things that we just don't get.......and "vive la difference " as they say in what is now known as the Eurozone........but how anybody could listen to the first movement of the first string Sextet and not be utterly moved is quite beyond me.....
        Anyway, would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things !!
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 13030

          #79
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          I imagine that the answer to this would depend upon the size of the pinhead, the sizes of each angel's feet (assuming that they have any) ...
          ... of course they have feet.

          Isaiah 6.2 : "Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly."

          EDIT - on second thoughts, perhaps not. I find my New Jerome Biblical Commentary advises: Isaiah 6:2 Feet - Euphemism for sexual parts, (cf Isaiah 7: 20*)

          * "In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, which is in the parts beyond the River, even with the king of Assyria, the head and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard."
          Last edited by vinteuil; 18-05-12, 18:37.

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          • scottycelt

            #80
            Ahinton, vinteuil's always a bit old-fashioned in his testaments ... please bear that in mind.

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            • ahinton
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              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #81
              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Well, Elgar did compose an overture which he titled "Alassio, In the South". Now, we all know that folk music is often danced to; that girls in folk songs are sometimes described as "lassies", and that Elgar once described himself as Folk Music. From this one might deduce that "Alassio" could be code for "A ("fair"?) Lassie-O", hinting that the composer had alternative options besides military marching, riding or cycling over the Malverns to choose from, when wishing to move to his music.

              All this could, of course, be conjecture...
              !!!

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #82
                Who brought Elgar into this ?
                not me

                but now you come to mention it.......................................

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                • ahinton
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16123

                  #83
                  Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                  Ahinton, vinteuil's always a bit old-fashioned in his testaments ... please bear that in mind.
                  Well, not that I've read v's most recent post, I will indeed do as you suggest - not that I was expecting "testaments" as such, mind (and now we seem in any case to be off out of Elgar's land - perhaps on that Phœbic bicycle - into that of Lambert's Summer's Last Will and Testament, do we not?...)...

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                  • Flosshilde
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #84
                    Originally posted by vinteuil;163463EDIT - on second thoughts, perhaps not. I find my [I
                    New Jerome Biblical Commentary[/I] advises: Isaiah 6:2 Feet - Euphemism for sexual parts, (cf Isaiah 7: 20*)

                    So what do we make of 'Jerusalem' - "and did those feet", etc?



                    * "In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, which is in the parts beyond the River, even with the king of Assyria, the head and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard."
                    So what is 'River' a euphemism for? & goodness knows what the King of Assyria really is

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                    • scottycelt

                      #85
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      Who brought Elgar into this ?
                      not me

                      but now you come to mention it.......................................
                      Why shouldn't the glorious Sir Edward be 'brought into this', for goodness sake? Other far less illustrious composers' names have quite uninvitedly entered this thread already ...

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                      • gradus
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5637

                        #86
                        Illustrious = Elgar, quite so, especially when Heddle Nash sang Gerontius as he did again memorably on Mr Cowan's programme this morning.
                        Schiff dislikes Liszt, so what?

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25238

                          #87
                          Originally posted by gradus View Post
                          Illustrious = Elgar, quite so, especially when Heddle Nash sang Gerontius as he did again memorably on Mr Cowan's programme this morning.
                          Schiff dislikes Liszt, so what?
                          quite. (I reckon maybe he finds it a bit too tricky !!)
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • amateur51

                            #88
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... of course they have feet.

                            Isaiah 6.2 : "Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly."
                            RSPB advises against the use of twain, lest swans' feet become entangled in it, swans being a royal bird, as thou knowest

                            RSPB Wardens have been instructed to patrol riverbanks to watch out for unattended or drifting twain, and to alert all passers-by (and swans) with a cry of "Mark! Twain!"

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                            • vinteuil
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 13030

                              #89
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              RSPB advises against the use of twain
                              ... maind you, for tea I prefer Jeckson's to Twaining's

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                              • MrGongGong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                #90
                                Originally posted by gradus View Post
                                Illustrious = Elgar, quite so, especially when Heddle Nash sang Gerontius as he did again memorably on Mr Cowan's programme this morning.
                                Schiff dislikes Liszt, so what?
                                Well I had sworn not to go there again
                                but

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