The joy of having one's preferences validated by a higher authority

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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12798

    #31
    Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
    Sorry, Floss, maybe I just have this terrible 'phobia' about so-called 'experts' and 'higher authorities'....

    ... but I thought you accepted - more than most - One Particular Authority...

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      #32
      But it really doesn't matter. We have learnt one another's music likes and dislikes over a period of time and will continue to do so. A pianist who doesn't like Liszt isn't right or wrong. It's a personal opinion - nothing more; nothing less.
      It's the same with critics and columnists. Their opinions are no more valid than yours or mine, but it's interesting to hear what they say.

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #33
        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        ... but I thought you accepted - more than most - One Particular Authority...


        Harrison Birtwistle didn't like my piece
        Jo Kondo loved it

        who is the "higher authority" ?

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        • Anna

          #34
          Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
          i recall admitting to a pathological aversion to Britten on the old boreds and at least two others confessed to a similar distaste ...
          One of which may have been me ..... and I still have the strong dislike. However, I also had an aversion to RVW, until I worked my way through the boxed set by Vernon Handley and the RLPO. Who is to say that I may not in time also overcome my aversion to Delius or Grainger, which is not a pathological aversion, merely ........ an aversion. Our tastes are not set in stone and are forever changing. I doubt however that I will change my opinion of Britten.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22116

            #35
            Originally posted by Anna View Post
            One of which may have been me ..... and I still have the strong dislike. However, I also had an aversion to RVW, until I worked my way through the boxed set by Vernon Handley and the RLPO. Who is to say that I may not in time also overcome my aversion to Delius or Grainger, which is not a pathological aversion, merely ........ an aversion. Our tastes are not set in stone and are forever changing. I doubt however that I will change my opinion of Britten.
            I think my aversion to Britten is only partial - orchestral and chamber OK but anything with a voice in it, particularly if that voice is vibrato-laden and tenor.

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            • scottycelt

              #36
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... but I thought you accepted - more than most - One Particular Authority...
              More than 'one' In matters of moral principle and the rule of law, of course, and whether that is 'more than most' and therefore a relatively eccentric standpoint might be open to some debate, even on a forum such as this ...

              In matters of taste and opinion, however, I most certainly do not accept Any Particular Authority ...

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              • Panjandrum

                #37
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                Harrison Birtwistle didn't like my piece
                Jo Kondo loved it

                who is the "higher authority" ?

                How do you know Kondo wasn't just being polite?

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                  How do you know Kondo wasn't just being polite?
                  He wanted it played as part of a concert of his pieces and some others with similar forces

                  seemed good enough for me at age 22

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                  • Panjandrum

                    #39
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    He wanted it played as part of a concert of his pieces and some others with similar forces
                    To show off how good his composition was through the effect of contrast?

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                    • Beef Oven

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                      To show off how good his composition was through the effect of contrast?
                      That is mean

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                      • Beef Oven

                        #41
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        I think my aversion to Britten is only partial - orchestral and chamber OK but anything with a voice in it, particularly if that voice is vibrato-laden and tenor.
                        But that would rule out his operas! Are you clinically insane?

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                        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9173

                          #42
                          if your mark of sanity is a liking for Britten operas i will send the little white van around shortly .....

                          and i am most grateful for the further validations extended above .... i have discovered that i positively adore RVW now [but not then] ... but like Anna doubt i will ever like Britten ...especially vocal works and even more so with vibrato laden tenor voices ...
                          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                          • Panjandrum

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                            That is mean
                            Just good natured banter Beef.

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                            • kernelbogey
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5738

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Listening to his Guardian lectures on Beethoven give a fair idea of his musical, and musicological, knowledge, too:

                              http://music.guardian.co.uk/classica...943867,00.html
                              Just listened to one of these - excellent! Thanks, Bryn, for the heads up, as I didn't know about them.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26524

                                #45
                                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                                Just listened to one of these - excellent! Thanks, Bryn, for the heads up, as I didn't know about them.
                                Seconded!!
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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