Posh Boys in trouble?

[MrGongGong]

And, no, MrGG, I don't 'guess' that pointing out that coalitions - deals between parties which have different priorities and in some areas opposing policies - involve compromises is a 'weak' argument. It seems to me self-evident. Any union negotiator surely knows that you have to admit defeat on some points in order to get a settlement.

Even if the "points" you admit defeat on are the basis of your belief system ?


This always reminds me of the Not the Nine O'clock News sketch about allowing diabolists into the CofE
"there are a few theological grey areas"

Labour might have "lost" the election but the Tories definitely didn't "win" it. It's one of the basics of dealing with people with abusive habits that you shouldn't facilitate their abusive behaviour ! junkies, alcoholics and tories alike

the point (again) about tuition fees is that Clegg behaved dishonestly and displayed behaviour that makes him totally untrustworthy (as later events have proved) what he completely fails to grasp is that he stood for honesty and difference yet became as dishonest and duplicitous as both the labour and tories ........ which is a sad thing indeed ......... best thing would be to get rid of him as quickly as possible

[Nick Armstrong]

The Not the Nine O'clock News sketch about allowing diabolists into the CofE
"there are a few theological grey areas"

[french frank]

As you keep reminding me french frank, a coalition is a compromise so it's no good your presenting Labour as unswervingly devoted to its manifesto commitments

I don't think I do - other than to reinforce my point that when difficult choices have to be made there will be ... difficulties, not all of them satisfactorily resolved.

History would have been on a Lab/Lib Dem coalition's side too although the previous one was a pact, and it didn't last too long, something we can only wish for in the present circumstances

I don't think that history is on any 'side': it's just what happened then. Not a unique situation, I'm sure when the LibDems got too big for their boots in Northavon and became the largest party. Tories and Labour thought the solution was to bury the hatchet between them: the Tories ( the second party) offered Labour the chairmanship, Labour accepted it and they went on to form the ruling group. Nothing 'historic' about the LibLab partnership.

MrGG - practical politicians don't have 'belief systems'. If people could get that idea into their heads, they wouldn't be quite so disillusioned ...

[MrGongGong]

MrGG - practical politicians don't have 'belief systems'. If people could get that idea into their heads, they wouldn't be quite so disillusioned ...

It would make a nice change to actually have people with imagination (and I meet many of them every day !) in charge for a change........
I'm just about to print out my "NONE OF THE ABOVE" extension to go on my postal vote ! (that's probably now a crime against the state so if I vanish you will know why !!) maybe I should finish the symphony first ?

[aeolium]

MrGG - practical politicans don't have 'belief systems'. If people could get that idea into their heads, they wouldn't be quite so disillusioned .

That hasn't always been the case. Clement Attlee and others certainly did have belief systems and against enormous odds (and opposition from interested groups) the post-war Labour government was able to implement policies according to those beliefs. Perhaps the decline of the main political parties has resulted from the perception that none of them is really interested any longer in pursuing policies based on strong and clearly articulated principles, only in a kind of managerialism which panders to powerful interests.

[amateur51]

Nothing 'historic' about the LibLab partnership.

MrGG - practical politicians don't have 'belief systems'. If people could get that idea into their heads, they wouldn't be quite so disillusioned ...

Well it was the first this century, the first this millennium, french frank

"Will you have any more Mr Pickles?"

"I believe I will indeed Madam Chairman - just run through the dhansaks this time if you would"

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Labour refuse to support workers striking to defend their pension rights,

Furthermore they never exposed the lies told by the government about public service pensions being unaffordable. When challenged to come up with figures, the Tory-Dems refused (and we all know why that was) and Labour said nothing.

[teamsaint]

Furthermore they never exposed the lies told by the government about public service pensions being unaffordable. When challenged to come up with figures, the Tory-Dems refused (and we all know why that was) and Labour said nothing.

Its Sunday night...........don't get me started !!
and I don't even work in the public sector !!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Its Sunday night...........don't get me started !!
and I don't even work in the public sector !!

I'll call you back in the morning.

[teamsaint]

I'll call you back in the morning.

oh great.......that will be you, the boss wanting last day of the month sales and fast, and no doubt lots of customers who forgot to order what they needed until too late !!
Nice thought though !!

[amateur51]

oh great.......that will be you, the boss wanting last day of the month sales and fast, and no doubt lots of customers who forgot to order what they needed until too late !!
Nice thought though !!

And I used to think it was only me

Good to know that some things don't change ...

[teamsaint]

And I used to think it was only me

Good to know that some things don't change ...

my experience is that they do change, but not for the better !!
How the hell did I ever end up in this job ?!
Time for a mid life crisis.............

[Lateralthinking1]

Here, I kid you not, are my five constituency candidates for the London Assembly. So which one would you choose?

It all seems like a bad slightly psychedelic dream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0jBsrln80c - Prespostrious BORIS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nr0mz3fO6E - Casual. Er what's our policy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-WaGnby50s - Cocky absent footy fan!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSr7...eature=related - Ex-Independent UKIP Rapper!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8kZmipM58 - Liberal Democrat - Who is Nick Clegg?

[teamsaint]

democracy alive and well judging by the number of views, Lat !!

And I thought Salisbury was bad.

We usually get a choice of a Tory Doctor, and Libdem Doctor, and whoever's turn it is for labour.
Ukip are regarded as lefty loonies hereabouts.
It would be a waste of petrol if I couldn't just walk down to spoil my ballot paper.

[scottycelt]

Aren't Ed Miliband and the rest of the Labour Front Bench 'posh' boys and girls as well ... ?

They all sound 'posh' to me ... apart from Ed Balls who just sounds silly.