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  • kernelbogey
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5803

    Merriam-Webster online is not very helpful. It gives math as an abbreviation of mathematics (first usage circa 1847), the lattter 'noun plural but usually singular in construction'.

    I'm not sure if a longer entry may be available, as these definitions appear as 'definition for English learners'. So just my two bits, as they say.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      Originally posted by jean View Post
      I'd probably say that if I were judging your behaviour.

      If I were marking your essay, I'd say 'Your ethics is appalling'.
      Not 'Your Ethics is appalling'?
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12936

        The American Mathematical Society uses "mathematics" rather than "mathematic" as the subject; "math" just seems to be an abbreviated form.

        The American Mathematical Society is an association of professional mathematicians dedicated to the interests of mathematical research and scholarship, and serves the national and international community through its publications, meetings, advocacy and ot

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Not 'Your Ethics is appalling'?
          Yes, but you wouldn't hear the capital letter!

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 11062

            Chambers gives noun ethics (singular).

            In any event, Ethics is not that far from Sussex is it?

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              In any event, Ethics is not that far from Sussex is it?
              Nobody who has ever had to deal with the Eastbourne Council would ever dream of making such a statement!
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37814

                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                Chambers gives noun ethics (singular).

                In any event, Ethics is not that far from Sussex is it?
                I prefer to think of it as next door to Suffix!

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12936

                  .

                  ... in these non-binary days, it's good to know we got there first -



                  [ tho' of course it is defunct ]

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                  • oddoneout
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9272

                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    .

                    ... in these non-binary days, it's good to know we got there first -



                    [ tho' of course it is defunct ]
                    Too narrow a focus so now subsumed by the LGBT category....

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                    • subcontrabass
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2780

                      Originally posted by jean View Post

                      I only have a baby Liddell & Scott so no citations, but it lists the adjective μαθηματικός, (from from which the Latin is clearly derived) and then gives the feminine singular μαθηματικὴ (sc. τέχνη, art), as meaning mathematics. The neuter plural would not have exactly the same form as the feminine singular (as happens in Latin) but would end in α.
                      The full Liddell & Scott does include the neuter plural form.

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 11062

                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        I prefer to think of it as next door to Suffix!
                        I should probably have written Thuthics!

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26572

                          I know one can be too pernickity about rules on spelling &c. &c. and that language is an evolving &c. &c.

                          But...





                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            I know one can be too pernickity about rules on spelling &c. &c. and that language is an evolving &c. &c.

                            But...



                            I think we can look forward to lots more "unpresidented acts". His aides could try taking his phone off him, but he'd only get another one

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                            • jean
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7100

                              Witing of the latest Sherlock, the Telegraph critic considers that the much-talked-about demolition of six busts of Margaret Thatcher was an unnecessary piece of iconoclasticism.

                              I wondered what was wrong with iconoclasm.

                              (But I see the OED did find one citation, from 1885.)

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16123

                                Originally posted by jean View Post
                                Witing of the latest Sherlock, the Telegraph critic considers that the much-talked-about demolition of six busts of Margaret Thatcher was an unnecessary piece of iconoclasticism.

                                I wondered what was wrong with iconoclasm.

                                (But I see the OED did find one citation, from 1885.)
                                "Iconoclasticism" sounds like the Sydney Grew version, rather like his references to "homosexualism" which make the act of being gay sound as though it's a professional pursuit.

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