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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30456

    Never heard of it before but if you google it, it seems to be quite common. Turn down the heat? Mind you, I never thought 'sex up' a very appropriate image. Just make it sounds more exciting in the press. And headline writers love words with low character counts - like 'fury', 'rift' &c.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • jean
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7100

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      Never heard of it before but if you google it, it seems to be quite common...
      I've just googled it, but the only references I get that are in any sense the opposite of 'sexing up' are from today's news.

      I think that whoever coined this in the sense I'm talking about (Nick Clegg?) thought of 'down' as the opposite of 'up', and didn't really consider what the 'sexing' bit meant.

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      Last edited by jean; 21-01-15, 10:43.

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      • french frank
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        • Feb 2007
        • 30456

        Originally posted by jean View Post
        I've just googled it, but none of the references I get are in any sense the opposite of 'sexing up'!
        No, it mainly seems to be a youth slang term. Though 'make more exciting' might be rendered as 'more urgent', thus 'needing urgent action'. As I say, I think it was coined by the press to make the press stories even more exciting, sensational. Which might be wholly justified, of course ...

        But I'm wrong ...

        OED, first use is 1931:

        3. trans. colloq. With up. To make more sexually exciting or explicit; to inject sexual content into (a book, film, etc.). Now also more generally: to make something more interesting or exciting; to spice up.
        1931 H. L. Wilson Two Black Sheep 159 ‘Put her in one of those things and sex it up to a glucose finish!’ ‘But she ain't film-minded,’ insisted the director sadly.


        Article updated 2008, but hasn't caught up with 'sex down' - definitely a new (ad hoc?) coinage.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          I edited my post, because references from today's news have have just appeared online!

          Definitely ad hoc, and could never make much sense out of a context in which sexed up hadn't become notorious.

          (I didn't realise sex up was so old, though.)

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          • mercia
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            And headline writers love words with low character counts - like 'fury', 'rift' &c.
            yes, that must explain CHAOS when a train is five minutes late, or it starts to rain

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            • jean
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Article updated 2008, but hasn't caught up with 'sex down' - definitely a new (ad hoc?) coinage.
              But here it is in a literal sense:

              The producers of saucy US TV drama The Client List have 'sexed down' billboards promoting the show so as not to upset people who were offended by leading lady Jennifer Love Hewitt's assets last year.


              (I could analyse why this works better than the metaphorical sense we are dealing with here, but I haven't got time.)

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30456

                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                yes, that must explain CHAOS when a train is five minutes late, or it starts to rain
                Yes - and FURY!
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20573

                  - and SHOCK every time there's a puny rise in council tax.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25225

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    - and SHOCK every time there's a puny rise in council tax.
                    the rises that took my council tax to a £180 a month weren't puny at all.

                    They were HUGE
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30456

                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      the rises that took my council tax to a £180 a month weren't puny at all.

                      They were HUGE
                      One-Hundred-and-EIGHTY? Bof! Oh, a MONTH!!?? You'd better move, or downsize. (Mine's only (only!!) £95. But then, it's a very modest dwelling in an unfashionable area ...
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25225

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        One-Hundred-and-EIGHTY? Bof! Oh, a MONTH!!?? You'd better move, or downsize. (Mine's only (only!!) £95. But then, it's a very modest dwelling in an unfashionable area ...

                        ..a month, obviously !! Downsize? I wish. Kids can't get on the housing ladder , parents want to move in.......sigh......

                        TS Towers may have a posh name,but its a modest family home, and I think you will find that it is " Up the hill" that is the fashionable part of this village.

                        Bristol is highly desirable in its entirety... all the young people love it....especially now that Eastville Stadium has been replaced by an IKEA and a Tesco.....

                        anyway, all off topic , (what is the topic again?) all due to EA's inflammatory remarks...or are they flammatory?......
                        Last edited by teamsaint; 21-01-15, 15:15.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20573

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

                          anyway, all off topic , (what is the topic again?) all due to EA's inflammatory remarks...or are they flammatory?......
                          My point was that headliners use the word "shock" for things that are entirely predictable.

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            And mine was about SEX UP (or DOWN), either of which ff speculated might be attractive to headline writers because of their low letter count.

                            (Honestly, the short attention span round these parts...)

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25225

                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              My point was that headliners use the word "shock" for things that are entirely predictable.
                              ah, but "puny " rises in council tax aren't predictable....the huge ones are.....

                              anyway, looks like I have the wrong end of the" council tax rise" stick.....
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20573

                                Originally posted by jean View Post

                                (Honestly, the short attention span round these parts...)


                                It's still about pedantry though.

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