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  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Just reading an article on the BBC website (not written by a BBC person) and saw:

    "Dependant on the cause ..., it may be best to ..."

    Doesn't that combine two separate mistakes? Dependent on the cause/Depending on the cause?
    I think "Depending on the cause…it might be best to…" would be better.

    But who am I to say?

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30451

      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
      I think "Depending on the cause…it might be best to…" would be better.

      But who am I to say?
      I'd have said it was the only 'grammatical' way: dependant wrong because that's a noun. Dependent on? I checked the OED for such a construction but couldn't find one.

      'The correct treatment ... is dependent upon the cause/depends on the cause."

      'We shall go on Wednesday, depending on the weather'

      We have planned the barbecue for Wednesday, but we are dependent upon the weather being fine'

      Isn't one use adjectival and the other adverbial? In which case they aren't completely interchangeable.

      Where are the Grammar Police when you want them?
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Pabmusic
        Full Member
        • May 2011
        • 5537

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        ...Where are the Grammar Police when you want them?
        At least it wouldn't be the Latin Grammar Police (nobody expects…).

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        • Don Petter

          BBC News site headline tonight:

          Fire in cafe cuts off Sandbanks peninsular

          The adjective is repeated three more times in the article.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30451

            Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
            Fire in cafe cuts off Sandbanks peninsular
            It's been corrected on the main news site, but the clues remain:
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Don Petter

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              It's been corrected on the main news site, but the clues remain:
              AArh! Well that be ow they pronounce it in Darset?

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20572

                Changing the subject, which words can you think of which have more than two of the same letter consecutively?

                Such as:
                InverneSSShire,
                LlanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwryrndrobwLLLLantysili ogogogoch.

                Any others?

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12930

                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Changing the subject, which words can you think of which have more than two of the same letter consecutively?

                  Such as:
                  InverneSSShire,
                  LlanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwryrndrobwLLLLantysili ogogogoch.

                  Any others?
                  ... hmm. Depends what you mean by "words" (as my linguistics tutor wd've said... )

                  Inverness is a distinct entity, as is Shire.

                  As for the fakery that is Llanfair P G - evidently Bwll and Llan are distinct.

                  And I suspect you are looking for words in English, rather than Welsh, German, Turkish....

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                  • Pabmusic
                    Full Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Changing the subject, which words can you think of which have more than two of the same letter consecutively?

                    Such as:
                    InverneSSShire,
                    LlanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwryrndrobwLLLLantysili ogogogoch.

                    Any others?
                    Can't think of any, but queueing has five vowels in a row (appropriate to this time of year). And abstemious (sensible for Prommers ) has all five vowels in order.

                    As does facetious

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                    • Don Petter

                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      Can't think of any, but queueing has five vowels in a row (appropriate to this time of year). And abstemious (sensible for Prommers ) has all five vowels in order.

                      As does facetious
                      I was going to try to think of some more, adventitiously, but that repeats a vowel, so I thought it might be considered as sacrilegious if we are being ultraserious.

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                      • gurnemanz
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7405

                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        Can't think of any, but queueing has five vowels in a row (appropriate to this time of year). And abstemious (sensible for Prommers ) has all five vowels in order.

                        As does facetious
                        Vowels backwards only works with "subcontinental"

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30451

                          Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                          Vowels backwards only works with "subcontinental"
                          Congratulations! I've been puzzling over that one (trying to cap 'all the vowels in order'), but had got no further than UN*O*I*E*AL/ANT
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30451

                            You can take pedantry too far, but I do feel that sometimes you have to take a stand ...




                            Very strange - I can see the URL of the picture, but no picture ...
                            Last edited by french frank; 31-08-14, 20:58.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20572

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              You can take pedantry too far, but I do feel that sometimes you have to take a stand ...
                              BRILLIANT!

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                              • jean
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7100

                                Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                                Fire in cafe cuts off Sandbanks peninsular
                                Reminds me of the strange substance known as Belgium chocolate.

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