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  • mangerton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3346

    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    I do baulk at "to leverage" tho'
    You and me both. I just checked, though, and it's in my "Chambers", in its financial sense as a vt and a vi. I am appalled. Anybody want to buy a dictionary?

    Two further notes:

    1. I bet it's not in my trusty COD. I'll check tomorrow when I'm back at work.
    2. If the word "leverage" must be used, I wish they'd pronounce it correctly, ie with a long "e".

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30235

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      the ability of the English language to turn substantives into verbs ( and vice versa, and many another flexibility... )
      E.g. down a pint, up the price, out him, Uncle me no uncle, But me no buts, No ifs and buts &c.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • gurnemanz
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7380

        "to panic" and "to progress" are only two examples of the American habit of using nouns as verbs. That too has become widespread in Britain.
        Originally posted by jean View Post
        That's not an American habit. We've been doing it for centuries.
        Jean is right on both counts. It has always happened and always will. You only notice the new ones which often do seem ugly, clumsy or unnecessary. It is quite natural for a noun which names the object to be same as the verb that describes actions associated with that object. What do you do with paint? What does rain do?.

        It was easy to find a more few examples:
        peel an apple, bottle the wine, market a product, powder one’s nose, saddle a horse, thread a needle, picture yourself in a boat on a river, slice the bread, pilot a plane, lock the door, comb your hair, to skate, to brake, voice an opinion, plough a field, pump your tyre up, clown around, to question a suspect, to stage a play, to anger someone, to humour someone, to condition, to proposition, to people, to hog the limelight, process data, bank the cash, hole a putt, to humour someone, to father a child, time your arrival, date a woman, lecture someone, to piece together, to film a book, chair a meeting, table a motion, to book a film etc etc

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        • Pabmusic
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          • May 2011
          • 5537

          Originally posted by mangerton View Post
          You and me both. I just checked, though, and it's in my "Chambers", in its financial sense as a vt and a vi. I am appalled. Anybody want to buy a dictionary?...
          You dictionaried the word, then?

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            You dictionaried the word, then?

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12782

              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              ah, Alpie is emoticonning again

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              • mangerton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3346

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ah, Alpie is emoticonning again
                I'll join him. "Dictionaried" forsooth!

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  Returning to the good/well discussion, I was aghast this morning on Breakfast TV, when the presenter, Susanna Reid was asked:
                  "How are you doing?"
                  She replied, "I'm doing good, thank you."
                  I expect verbal garbage like this from Steph McGovern, but Susanna Reid....?

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30235

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Susanna Reid was asked:
                    "How are you doing?"
                    She replied, "I'm doing good, thank you."
                    I would understand "How are you doing?" to mean "How are things going with you (generally)?" rather than the more personal "How are you?"

                    [And of course "I'm doing good" would not be for me to say, but for others ]
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      [And of course "I'm doing good" would not be for me to say, but for others ]
                      Precisely.

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                      • Don Petter

                        Like the two psychologists: 'You're all right. How am I?'

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                        • Pabmusic
                          Full Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          Here's a new word - to glom onto each other. Try the third paragraph of this interesting article:

                          Physicists have created a new kind of light by chilling down photons into a blob state called a Bose-Einstein condensate.

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                          • Flay
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 5795

                            The Today Programme has just announced that the West Coast franchise competition is going to be "re-run again."

                            Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30235

                              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                              Here's a new word - to glom onto each other. Try the third paragraph of this interesting article:

                              http://www.livescience.com/10288-kin...akthrough.html
                              An abbreviation of 'glomerate'?

                              I was going to suggest that it was a technical term which might well - in a normal way of things - pass into everyday speech, but it could be that the reverse is true.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Pabmusic
                                Full Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 5537

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                An abbreviation of 'glomerate'?

                                I was going to suggest that it was a technical term which might well - in a normal way of things - pass into everyday speech, but it could be that the reverse is true.
                                I really don't know, but I think I rather like the word.

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