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  • amateur51

    Originally posted by jean View Post
    It's a common variant in the North of England. If I were you I'd try to stop being so amnnoyed, because it's not going to go away.


    I really enjoy these variations, I must say

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    • Flosshilde
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      Originally posted by mangerton View Post
      These errors are rife in Scotland. "I done", "I've went", "I've came". On a similar note, hung/hanged are increasingly misused these days.

      Isn't this venturing into the vexed question of what's ungramatical & what's acceptable 'regional' variation or 'dialect'?

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      • Flosshilde
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        • Nov 2010
        • 7988

        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
        Is that an aeroplane in your pants, or are you just pleased to fly with me?

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by Extended Play View Post
          In last weekend's Financial Times magazine:

          p.43: "Chocolate and coffee tart sung from the plate....."
          p.53: "Who sung Britain's biggest-ever-selling football song?"

          Please tell me I'm wrong to be worried about this.
          You are wrong to be worried

          feeling better now ?
          There are many things to worry about , this isn't one of them IMV

          Originally posted by mangerton View Post
          These errors are rife in Scotland. "I done", "I've went", "I've came". On a similar note, hung/hanged are increasingly misused these days.


          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          If we're going down the "tense" road, there's nothing more annoying than "I was sat", or "I'm stood here".

          Somehow I expect it from Steph McGovern on BBC Breakfast, but surely not from the likes of Professor Brian Cox.
          Lighten up old chap there are plenty of consecutives in Bach's chorales (or should that be Bachs' or even the cholrales of Bach ?)

          Originally posted by jean View Post
          It's a common variant in the North of England. If I were you I'd try to stop being so amnnoyed, because it's not going to go away.

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          • amateur51

            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            Is that an aeroplane in your pants, or are you just pleased to fly with me?
            "No Miss, this fokker was a Messerschmidt!!"

            Will the tuk-tuk get me?

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            • Flosshilde
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              Originally posted by Extended Play View Post
              In last weekend's Financial Times magazine:

              p.43: "Chocolate and coffee tart sung from the plate....."

              Please tell me I'm wrong to be worried about this.
              I'd be extremely worried if a pudding started singing.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                I've heard in Yorkshire "I was stood standin' there"...
                A Lancastrianism, too: one of the catch phrases of Hylda Baker (1914-78).
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20569

                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  It's a common variant in the North of England. If I were you I'd try to stop being so amnnoyed, because it's not going to go away.
                  Please do not label Northerners as thick and grammatically ignorant. It's patronising. Mind you, I expected it.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Bach's chorales (or should that be Bachs'
                    No. (Unless you meant examples from two or more members of the Bach family, in which case there should probably be a definite article before "Bachs'".)
                    or even the cholrales of Bach ?)
                    Definitely not.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Please do not label Northerners as thick and grammatically ignorant. It's patronising. Mind you, I expected it. However, this
                      There, jean; now look what you've gone and done!
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • amateur51

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        A Lancastrianism, too: one of the catch phrases of Hylda Baker (1914-78).

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20569

                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          There, jean; now look what you've gone and done!
                          Jean's own grammar appears to be excellent . But there's an element of "Let them eat cake" creeping in. And let's not forget that this is Pedants' Paradise.

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                          • mangerton
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3346

                            Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                            Isn't this venturing into the vexed question of what's ungramatical & what's acceptable 'regional' variation or 'dialect'?
                            It could be, but I don't think so. I just think it's wrong, although the increasing use of these forms may mean that it will soon become "dialect".

                            OTOH, whereas "I'm sat" is wrong too, I'd regard that as dialect. Is there perhaps a throwback to the French construction here - "Je suis assis(e)"?

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              • Serial_Apologist
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37561

                                Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                                It could be, but I don't think so. I just think it's wrong, although the increasing use of these forms may mean that it will soon become "dialect".

                                OTOH, whereas "I'm sat" is wrong too, I'd regard that as dialect. Is there perhaps a throwback to the French construction here - "Je suis assis(e)"?
                                One of my personal bugbears is the use of "lay" for "lie". "Lay" can be lots of things besides the past tense of "lie", , but never conjugable into its present or future tense, as in, "I'll lay down and you can get me an aspirin". But this in my experience is a colloquialism right across the UK - as indeed, incidentally, is substituting "sat" for "sitting".

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