I suggest elision. One only is required in such cases.
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Originally posted by smittims View PostI suggest elision. One only is required in such cases.
Doubling up seems ungainly and unnecessary.
But a succession of different symbols is surely correct in a case such as this (referring to the consumer magazine Which?):
Which?'s recommendation is......
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post.
Perhaps some of the sub-editors here could advise?
It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post
I don't think this was dealt with in our house style guide (which did specify 'Rumania' and 'protestor' - though it never seemed to be noticed when we erred). This was mere journalism, however, so if a sub queried it they'd probably be told to recast the sentence.
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
Which?'s recommendation is......
One issue which I never manage to resolve in my own mind is the use of the possessive apostrophe for words ending in -s. Should the following be "John Stevens's bands included...", or "John Stevens' bands included..."?
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
It's strange how some conventions produce what some (such as myself) would consider ungainly. I would have written "The recommendation of Which? is....", or "Which? recommends...".
One issue which I never manage to resolve in my own mind is the use of the possessive apostrophe for words ending in -s. Should the following be "John Stevens's bands included...", or "John Stevens' bands included..."?
But it has to be Delius's 'Paris'....you see Delius' written as a possessive quite often, which seems wrong to me because you can't say it like that....what you write should be what you say.
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Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post
Brahms's 1st, or Brahms' 1st? Both 'correct', but I prefer the latter.
I would regard the latter version as incorrect. The reason one might be inclined to write it is that in speech one might prefer "Brahms 1st" to the more ungainly "Brahmziz First". I would think that "Brahms 1st" (like "Shakespeare plays" or indeed "cat food") is not a possessive but a compound noun and therefore does not require an apostrophe.
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... most style guides provide sound solutions to these apostrophe questions (and often different editors will use different style guides with different (valid) solutions). Charles's but Aristophanes' &c.
The one I really object to is the London hospital - which they spell St Thomas' - but then expect you to pronounce St Thomasiz
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostI would think that "Brahms 1st" (like "Shakespeare plays" or indeed "cat food") is not a possessive but a compound noun and therefore does not require an apostrophe.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post.
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The one I really object to is the London hospital - which they spell St Thomas' - but then expect you to pronounce St Thomasiz
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An amusing case of apostrophe missing completely, seen on the desk of Manager Richard Foster indicating where to put his mail, was:-
Dicks In Tray
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