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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30527

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

    I can't remember when I first encountered the phrase 'slope off', but it must have been several decades ago.
    As a verb it has a different history. The OED has the first British use (in single quotes) as a noun indicating contempt in the New Statesman, 1966: U.S. slang. (disparaging and offensive). A person from East or Southeast Asia; (more recently) spec. a Vietnamese person.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Old Grumpy
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      • Jan 2011
      • 3660

      Originally posted by french frank View Post

      As a verb it has a different history. The OED has the first British use (in single quotes) as a noun indicating contempt in the New Statesman, 1966: U.S. slang. (disparaging and offensive). A person from East or Southeast Asia; (more recently) spec. a Vietnamese person.
      Thanks FF, helpful (as ever). I certainly heard the use as a verb (as in sloped off) from childhood.

      I was too was unaware of the disparaging U.S. slang usage until the Clarkson debacle.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4409

        I'll be 73 next month, vinteuil. But rather than age I think it's to do with the way my brain is wired. I've never gone in for subtle hints and hidden meanings and mind games and standing back sniggering while someone tries to work out what they mean. As I've only a few years to go I think I'll just stick to plain English and risk being arrested for inadverently using a politically-incorrect word.

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 11127

          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          I'll be 73 next month, vinteuil. But rather than age I think it's to do with the way my brain is wired. I've never gone in for subtle hints and hidden meanings and mind games and standing back sniggering while someone tries to work out what they mean. As I've only a few years to go I think I'll just stick to plain English and risk being arrested for inadverently using a politically-incorrect word.
          So will I!

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          • smittims
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            • Aug 2022
            • 4409

            So, we were both 'new Elizabethans'!

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            • Pulcinella
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              • Feb 2014
              • 11127

              Originally posted by smittims View Post
              So, we were both 'new Elizabethans'!
              I must be that bit older......see my Profile.
              The news of my birth reached Sandringham and the poor king snuffed it two hours later, so I'm technically a Georgian!


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              • LMcD
                Full Member
                • Sep 2017
                • 8708

                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                So will I!
                Don't worry - the best is yet to come - I'm nine squared!

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9318

                  From a Guardian consumer article

                  In London, Kennedy was alerted that his property had been put on Airbnb by neighbours.
                  Actually it was the tenant who had listed the property and the neighbours who alerted the owner.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30527

                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                    From a Guardian consumer article

                    Actually it was the tenant who had listed the property and the neighbours who alerted the owner.
                    Know thy neighbour - they get up to all sorts of scams, you wouldn't beiieve.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37875

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post

                      Know thy neighbour - they get up to all sorts of scams, you wouldn't beiieve.
                      Then thank dawkins I get on so well with mine!

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                      • oddoneout
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9318

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        Your mention of the word 'slope', ff, reminds me of how difficult it is for me, and I guess, others of my generation,to keep up with political correctness. You may find it difficult to believe, but until I read your post I wouldn't have thought 'slope' meant anything else but its traditional English meaning. I was told some time ago that one mustn't say 'water melon' as that has become an offensive term. What these two terms are now taken to mean is a mystery to me. Words and phrases that were acceptable last year are suddenly politically-incorrect. Its a minefield (oops, for all I now 'minefield' might now be banned for some reason).

                        This isn't mean to be satirical . I do genuinely find it all bewildering.
                        Trouble is using an alternative name would also be offensive to some as they wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about, and might thus feel belittled.
                        Citrullus lanatus, pasteque fourragere*, coloquinte... *With apologies for missing accents.
                        In any case it's not the watermelon per se, but portion thereof in the wrong context.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30527

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                          Then thank dawkins I get on so well with mine!
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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