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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12936

    Originally posted by french frank View Post


    Why can I remember this and this morning I couldn't remember someone's name (it began with R) and now I can't remember whose name it was I couldn't remember?
    ... it seems that Proper Nouns are stored in a different part of the brain from Common Nouns, and that one's ability to recall Proper Nouns decays far earlier than for Common Nouns. I have had real problems recalling Names for years now...
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    • AuntDaisy
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      • Jun 2018
      • 1773

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      ... it seems that Proper Nouns are stored in a different part of the brain from Common Nouns, and that one's ability to recall Proper Nouns decays far earlier than for Common Nouns. I have had real problems recalling Names for years now...
      How about voices or faces?

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
        • 11062

        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

        ... it seems that Proper Nouns are stored in a different part of the brain from Common Nouns, and that one's ability to recall Proper Nouns decays far earlier than for Common Nouns. I have had real problems recalling Names for years now...
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        That's cheered me up no end!
        I have great difficulty remembering the names of the Year-5 students in the class I help out with, and really admire those that can.
        Now, I'll just attribute it to Proper Noun decay, while still insisting that they use capital letters for such nouns!

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        • AuntDaisy
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          • Jun 2018
          • 1773

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Though in this case ... OED: To sign: "To put a seal upon (a letter or document) as a means of identification or authentication; to stamp with a seal or signet; to cover with a seal."
          You win - I concede defeat.

          OED trumps dear Dr. Hinge (my historical source.)

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
            • 37814

            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

            That's cheered me up no end!
            I have great difficulty remembering the names of the Year-5 students in the class I help out with, and really admire those that can.
            Now, I'll just attribute it to Proper Noun decay, while still insisting that they use capital letters for such nouns!
            Me too!

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            • vinteuil
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12936

              Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
              Typical, historical academics always wanting accuracy. Sealed?
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              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              Though in this case ... OED: To sign: "To put a seal upon (a letter or document) as a means of identification or authentication; to stamp with a seal or signet; to cover with a seal."

              ... tho' the 'scholarly' objection to the Mint's design of the coin remains : King John is portrayed as holding a quill - not a seal

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30456

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... tho' the 'scholarly' objection to the Mint's design of the coin remains : King John is portrayed as holding a quill - not a seal
                That is true. I'm not sure whether it's on record whether Johannes R. could write or not*. The Britannica says he was 'literate' but that doesn't necessarily mean he could write. More people were able to read than write, other than make their mark. X was the sign of illiteracy which is why it's still used in our vorting system: you just have to be able to recognise a picture and sign an X.

                *Except when he signed his letter to Father Christmas, not Johannes R, but very humbly Jack. Damn.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • vinteuil
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12936


                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  More people were able to read than write, other than make their mark. X was the sign of illiteracy which is why it's still used in our voting system: you just have to be able to recognise a picture and sign an X.
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                  ... I love the story that one of the members of the very distinguished O family was illiterate, and signed his name as X




                  Last edited by vinteuil; 06-05-24, 19:51.

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30456

                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    ... I love the story that one of the members of the very distinguished O family was illiterate, and signed his name as X]
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22182

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                      ... au contraire - all the Judaean monarchs were called Herod, over five generations : among them

                      Herod the Great
                      Herod Archelaus
                      Herod Antipas
                      ​​​​​​​Herod Agrippa
                      ​​​​​​​Herod of Chalcis
                      Herod Agrippa II

                      Herod the Great was the one when Jesus was born (tho' there was no Massacre of the Innocents - "fake news")
                      Herod Antipas was the one who executed John the Baptist and refused to judge Jesus

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                      Thanks for assuaging my ignorance.

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8644

                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                        Thanks for assuaging my ignorance.
                        Any suggestions for a collective noun for these guys?

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22182

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                          ... au contraire - all the Judaean monarchs were called Herod, over five generations : among them

                          Herod the Great
                          Herod Archelaus
                          Herod Antipas
                          Herod Agrippa
                          ​​​​​​​Herod of Chalcis
                          Herod Agrippa II

                          Herod the Great was the one when Jesus was born (tho' there was no Massacre of the Innocents - "fake news")
                          Herod Antipas was the one who executed John the Baptist and refused to judge Jesus

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                          Thanks for assuaging my ignorance.

                          Perhaps I should have mentioned Harold in the popularity in the regal nomenclature stakes - after the ‘one in the eye’ at Hastings we’ve had no more Harolds but four Williams and a fifth in waiting.

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                          • vinteuil
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12936

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post



                            Perhaps I should have mentioned Harold in the popularity in the regal nomenclature stakes - after the ‘one in the eye’ at Hastings we’ve had no more Harolds but four Williams and a fifth in waiting.
                            ... I wonder if we've only had one Cnut



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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22182

                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                              ... I wonder if we've only had one Cnut


                              With many a tide since to wash away the memory?

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                              • LMcD
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                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8644

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                                With many a tide since to wash away the memory?
                                Some people would say that Surf washes cleaner than Tide.

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