Originally posted by LMcD
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Originally posted by LMcD View Post
Sorry - I didn't realize the stone doorway belonged to the warden.
Do we need to consult Who's Who?
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I'm not sure what the precise term is for a phrase such as 'they arrived in a triumph and motor car', which I remember from an English lesson back in the 1950s as an example of what not to say or write, but I was reminded of it this morning when our local weather forecaster told us that heavier showers would arrive in later in the afternoon. 'Arrive in what?' I wondered, and am still wondering.
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Originally posted by LMcD View PostI'm not sure what the precise term is for a phrase such as 'they arrived in a triumph and motor car', which I remember from an English lesson back in the 1950s as an example of what not to say or write, but I was reminded of it this morning when our local weather forecaster told us that heavier showers would arrive in later in the afternoon. 'Arrive in what?' I wondered, and am still wondering.
Miss Bolo [...] went straight home, in a flood of tears and a sedan-chair." (Charles Dickens, The Pickwick Papers, Chapter 35)
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
Americans (or maybe Canadians or both) 'visit with'.
I had a nice visit with Mrs Smith.
I always wondered who (whom?) or what they visited!
Other forms of speech that may irritate are originally dialect/regional/cultural that have passed into wider usage - not always in their original meaning.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
Used more in N America, and indicates a sociable occasion rather than just calling in, apparently. One reference said that it was current in 19thC Britain and occurs in the writings of Ruskin and George Eliot. As with other examples of American English it is possible that what we now dislike is just a remnant of a form of English that was taken to the New World and continued there, but passed in to disuse in this country.
Other forms of speech that may irritate are originally dialect/regional/cultural that have passed into wider usage - not always in their original meaning.
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
Zeugma:
Miss Bolo [...] went straight home, in a flood of tears and a sedan-chair." (Charles Dickens, The Pickwick Papers, Chapter 35)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeugma_and_syllepsis
It occurred to me that if the showers mentioned in the forecast are frequent and numerous, they will arrive in droves.
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Originally posted by LMcD View Postheavier showers would arrive in later in the afternoon. 'Arrive in what?' I wondered, and am still wondering.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by LMcD View PostWhile waiting to cross the road this morning, I spotted a local carpenter's van with a large advertisement on its side offering 'NO OBLIGATION QUOTE'S'
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