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  • Andrew Slater
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1798

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Somewhat baffled (but suspect I'm missing something that is common knowledge): 'Twelve of Britain's most talented sewers compete to win.'

    It reminded me of "Lord Redesdale ("Uncle Matthew" in Love in a Cold Climate), celebrated for his dislike of foreigners and his daughters' friends, disparaged collectively as "sewers."
    Don't let them stitch you up .....

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9308

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      Somewhat baffled (but suspect I'm missing something that is common knowledge): 'Twelve of Britain's most talented sewers compete to win.'

      It reminded me of "Lord Redesdale ("Uncle Matthew" in Love in a Cold Climate), celebrated for his dislike of foreigners and his daughters' friends, disparaged collectively as "sewers."
      Sewist is a popular alternative in crafting (rather than dressmaking/tailoring etc)circles. It may be a made up word (suggested as from sewing and artist) but at least avoids the dirty plumbing overtones.

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      • Padraig
        Full Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 4251

        Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
        Don't let them stitch you up .....
        . . . and don't go anywhere near hewers and drawers.

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8690

          Originally posted by Padraig View Post
          . . . and don't go anywhere near hewers and drawers.
          Does that mean I shouldn't apply to appear on Countdown until the current host leaves in June?

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            To mark half a century since the end of Igor Stravinsky’s long and creative musical life, Radio 3 presents a river of his music. Over the course of five and a half hours discover a rich and surprising mix of 50 pieces, expertly curated and sprinkled with the insights of Stravinsky performers.
            Phew! They are even advertising the curate's egg properties of their 'River'.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37856

              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Phew! They are even advertising the curate's egg properties of their 'River'.
              You might have thought they could have held their water until after the programme though...

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              • kernelbogey
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5807

                Here is a sentence from Wikipedia using 'they' as the pronoun for a subject who defines as non-binary:

                [X] has dated both men and women, stating in April 2021 that they are bisexual after previously resisting labelling their sexuality.

                I had to read it more than twice to be clear about who the 'they' was/were.

                I guess is this is to be a new convention, writers need to be more careful.

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9308

                  Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                  Here is a sentence from Wikipedia using 'they' as the pronoun for a subject who defines as non-binary:

                  [X] has dated both men and women, stating in April 2021 that they are bisexual after previously resisting labelling their sexuality.

                  I had to read it more than twice to be clear about who the 'they' was/were.

                  I guess is this is to be a new convention, writers need to be more careful.
                  I agree. A couple of years ago I read an article in which, because the writer hadn't bothered to construct some sentences slightly differently, I couldn't work out what was actually being said or by whom about the people involved. It didn't help that the "alternative" pronoun situation wasn't stated at the outset and it wasn't apparent from the article until about halfway through.
                  Given what seems to me to be increasingly careless writing in general, especially an apparent lack of proofreading/editing, I do wonder if there is even the level of skill to deal with such a consideration as rephrasing to clarify meaning.

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                  • kernelbogey
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5807

                    Unlock - appears to be being used as a noun now (i.e. the reverse of lockdown).
                    Last edited by kernelbogey; 04-06-21, 06:55.

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8690

                      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                      Unlock - appears to be being used as a noun now (i.e. the reverse of lockdown).
                      Also a French Rugby Union forward.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30511

                        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                        Also a French Rugby Union forward.
                        Your jokes are getting more and more Paine-ful.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8690

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Your jokes are getting more and more Paine-ful.
                          Must be something in the water in our shared birthplace (Thetford).

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30511

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            Must be something in the water in our shared birthplace (Thetford).
                            I did not know that. What about the Common Sense?
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8690

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              I did not know that. What about the Common Sense?
                              I know very little about Mr P and his writings, but am about to purchase a Kindle copy of his pamphlet.

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22205

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Your jokes are getting more and more Paine-ful.
                                He just thought to poppet in!

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