Pedants' Paradise

[un barbu]

I'll see your Snozzle and raise you Kinnuchar (spelled Kilconquhar).

[gurnemanz]

Snalbans - cathedral city in Hertfordshire.

[doversoul1]

Students used to demonstrate when they had something to protest about. These days, they go on strike. Are the two the same thing?

[gradus]

From out east, Hoxne - Hoxen to you.

[LeMartinPecheur]

Who would like to enter the Shrews- versus Shroze-bury battleground? I was born in its hospital and grew up not far away, and had always understood the latter to be 'proper'. But last time I stayed there I was told that these days one end of the town says it one way, t'other t'other

[Joseph K]

Who would like to enter the Shrews- versus Shrozebury battleground? I was born in its hospital and grew up not far away, and had always understood the latter to be 'proper'. But last time I stayed there I heard that these days one end of the town says it one way, t'other t'other

Yes. I remember Midlands Today discuss it - either way is acceptable, basically.

[Serial_Apologist]

Yes. I remember Midlands Today discuss it - either way is acceptable, basically.

I'd compare it with Tereeza versus Terayzer.

[vinteuil]

Yes. I remember Midlands Today discuss it - either way is acceptable, basically.

... I have a vague memory of being told that the pronunciation varied depending on whether you were from within the loop of the river or from t'other side.

But of course we all know, really, it has to be Shrowz-bury...

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[vinteuil]

I'd compare it with Tereeza versus Terayzer.

... or Ireeneee versus Ireen


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[un barbu]

Or the pronunciation of 'mass' as used at the Brompton Oratory.

[Oakapple]

As someone living in Shropshire I can say that most local people pronounce it Shroo... but Shroh... is an older way of saying it and such people are considered to be posh. In Shakespeare's time shrew rhymed with throw, as in the taming of. But some very old people say Salop for the town and not just the county (pronounced zallup).

On a similar matter, it does irritate me when people on the BBC pronounce homage to rhyme with French fromage. Jeremy Vine was the latest to do it today on Eggheads.

[LeMartinPecheur]

On a similar matter, it does irritate me when people on the BBC pronounce homage to rhyme with French fromage. Jeremy Vine was the latest to do it today on Eggheads.

Perhaps we should have a strict policy of pronouncing ALL foreign or foreign-derived words 'correctly'. So no more milliners (MiLAN-ers) or bridegrooms (brideGOOMs at the very least, and even better 'broytigams'), to pick a few random examples. So much simpler!

And much easier for foreigners who've all learnt the language completely wrong, just like the rest of us

PS On the homage point, perhaps Kings College and many other choirs will need to make a rather tricky adjustment to a well-known macaronic number

In dulci jubilo!
Let us our homage show!
Our heart's joy reclineth
In præsepio!

to make it sound even more macaronic? More is of course better!

[John Locke]

As someone living in Shropshire I can say that most local people pronounce it Shroo... but Shroh... is an older way of saying it and such people are considered to be posh.

Posh perhaps on account of the school which surely is Shrowsbury?

[cloughie]

I'd compare it with Tereeza versus Terayzer.

...and is it Evesham or Eavysham?

[cloughie]

As someone living in Shropshire I can say that most local people pronounce it Shroo... but Shroh... is an older way of saying it and such people are considered to be posh. In Shakespeare's time shrew rhymed with throw, as in the taming of. But some very old people say Salop for the town and not just the county (pronounced zallup).

On a similar matter, it does irritate me when people on the BBC pronounce homage to rhyme with French fromage. Jeremy Vine was the latest to do it today on Eggheads.

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