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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37814

    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    ... I know. Many people do this.

    They are, of course, wrong.


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    By putting the emphasis on the first syllable, a second emphasis is needed on the third for it to "flow". My dad would always explode whenever he heard "controversy - Dad was never wrong about anything - however I now see that his contemporary version of the Oxford Dictionary gives the two options as equally acceptable.

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    • Keraulophone
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1967

      Originally posted by alycidon View Post
      We live in a society where virtually anything is permissible
      If so, controversiality could run riot!

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      • John Locke

        [QUOTE=vinteuil;755167] I have to tell him, again and again, that that may be what some people say - but he and they are WRONG.


        Younger people speaking differently from their elders maybe?

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12936

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          I have to tell him, again and again, that that may be what some people say - but he and they are WRONG.
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          Originally posted by John Locke View Post
          Younger people speaking differently from their elders maybe?
          ... undoubtedly. It comes about when people learn to read, and start pronouncing things as they is spelled. Or spelt.

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          • Joseph K
            Banned
            • Oct 2017
            • 7765

            Are we descriptive or prescriptive linguists?

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12936

              Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
              Are we descriptive or prescriptive linguists?
              ... o, I were brung up as a descriptive linguistician.

              But sometimes it do do me good to be judgmental. Or judgemental.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37814

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... o, I were brung up as a descriptive linguistician.

                But sometimes it do do me good to be judgmental. Or judgemental.

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                Does that mean the world is your lobster?

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 8638

                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... I know. Many people do this.

                  They are, of course, wrong.


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                  It occurs to me that I may not have made myself entirely clear: the pronunciation in question is more like contrOHversy.

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    ... well of course it's cuventry! as in cuvent garden.

                    I have a friend who hails from Coventry who maintains that now-a-days it is co ventry. I have to tell him, again and again, that that may be what some people say - but he and they are WRONG.




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                    I believe that Harold Macmillan was the only person to refer to his own constituency as Brumley.

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12936

                      Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                      I believe that Harold Macmillan was the only person to refer to his own constituency as Brumley.


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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        ...and you can spot the Devon huntin', shootin' and fishin' set by the pronunciation of Huniton.

                        Mind you, vowels are funny things around here. Cullompton is pronounced Collumpton by everybody, high and low, rich and poor......

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                        • Keraulophone
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1967

                          ...and going even further west we arrive at LAN-sun (Launceston), ROW-ter (Rough Tor), Snozzle (St Austell), Druth (Redruth) and MOW-zle (Mousehole).

                          Hyns diogel!

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22182

                            Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
                            ...and going even further west we arrive at LAN-sun (Launceston), ROW-ter (Rough Tor), Snozzle (St Austell), Druth (Redruth) and MOW-zle (Mousehole).

                            Hyns diogel!
                            Trurer, Camburn, Pnzarnce, Snerth ā€˜nā€™ Snives.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              ...and back to Devon, Woolfardisworthy. Mind you, I'm not surprised it's known as Woolsery.
                              One of my fave Cornish village names is Veryan, which is a contraction of the obscure Celtic Saint Symphorian (to whom the local church is dedicated).

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12936

                                Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
                                ... Snozzle (St Austell)
                                ... aha! Gloucestershire has a snozzle too -



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