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  • Don Petter

    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    - rather as, even today, certain imperial measures still have a peceived currency today in UK - "miles per gallon", 2.24l plastic bottles of milk being sold as 4-pint bottles and the rest and, despite metric measure having first formally been discussed in Parliament almost two centuries ago and its use now the law, some Brits still seem to love to complicate matters by "converting"...
    Or you could say this is keeping it simple by not converting ...

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    • jean
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7100

      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Nor I, and even it it did fit the category intended, the accepted term is "greengrocer's apostrophe"
      That's true, but having already corrected ah in two matters, I didn't like to add a third.

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
        No, I'd not forgotten that; nor have I forgotten that it took a further 13 years for its death knell to be sounded; in fact, I did wonder at the time whether it was introduced along with the rest of decimal currency solely s a sop to satisfy the bizarre attachments that some people still retained for imperial measures various - rather as, even today, certain imperial measures still have a pereived currency today in UK - "miles per gallon", 2.24l plastic bottles of milk being sold as 4-pint bottles and the rest and, despite metric measure having first formally been discussed in Parliament almost two centuries ago and its use now the law, some Brits still seem to love to complicate matters by "converting"...

        Never mind "miles per gallon", what about "miles per hour". I wonder how many more road deaths and serious injuries would result if we changed to kilometres per hour and thus upped the standard urban speed limit to European mainland 50kph from the current UK 30mph?

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Let's hope we can make some progress towards a standard urban speed limit of 20mph before that happens.

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          • gurnemanz
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7380

            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Never mind "miles per gallon", what about "miles per hour". I wonder how many more road deaths and serious injuries would result if we changed to kilometres per hour and thus upped the standard urban speed limit to European mainland 50kph from the current UK 30mph?
            As they did in Ireland a few years ago. I wonder if there are any statistics.

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            • mercia
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8920

              Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
              How much is a gobstopper nowadays?
              don't know, but the tuck shop is on the way out

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20569

                Originally posted by jean View Post
                Let's hope we can make some progress towards a standard urban speed limit of 20mph before that happens.
                Banning all vehicles from parking on the pavement would be another priority. There is no clear law about this, except in London.

                Pavement parking began to be an issue immidiately after decimalisation. I don't suppose there's any connection.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30210

                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  Banning all vehicles from parking on the pavement would be another priority. There is no clear law about this, except in London.
                  Is that correct?

                  "Parking on the pavement is illegal." BCC website

                  ("Enforcement of parking restrictions and bus lanes in Bristol is carried out under Part 6 of the Traffic Management Act 2004 and the Section 144 of the Transport Act 2000")
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • gurnemanz
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7380

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Banning all vehicles from parking on the pavement would be another priority. There is no clear law about this, except in London.

                    Pavement parking began to be an issue immidiately after decimalisation. I don't suppose there's any connection.
                    It's a an even bigger issue in Germany where outrageous pavement parking takes place. Below, one of many photos quickly found via Google Images:



                    Mercedes - no comment.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Banning all vehicles from parking on the pavement would be another priority. There is no clear law about this, except in London.

                      Pavement parking began to be an issue immidiately after decimalisation. I don't suppose there's any connection.
                      Many councils, including some within the old GLC boundaries, now actively encourage part pavement parking, with designated parking bays shared between road and pavement (two wheels on the road, and the other two on the pavement). Several such have been introduced along Green Lane, Hounslow in the past year, for instance.

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                      • Don Petter

                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Many councils, including some within the old GLC boundaries, now actively encourage part pavement parking, with designated parking bays shared between road and pavement (two wheels on the road, and the other two on the pavement). Several such have been introduced along Green Lane, Hounslow in the past year, for instance.

                        Good old British compromise?

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          Even when they don't explicitly sanction pavement parking, councils somethimes allow for it - here, when people began to complain that the flagstone pavements in residential streets were being replaced with asphalt, the council replied that asphalt wasn't so easily damaged by having cars parked on it.

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                          • vinteuil
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12768

                            ... a pedant writes : From about #1234 above there has been nothing appropriately pedantic. Can we please return to Oxford commas and, ceteris paribus, things higher than a greengrocer's apostrophe? (Tho' I did enjoy on a walk down the Uxbridge Road this morning an advertisement for - a Picture Framers's... )

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7380

                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... a pedant writes : From about #1234 above there has been nothing appropriately pedantic. Can we please return to Oxford commas and, ceteris paribus, things higher than a greengrocer's apostrophe? (Tho' I did enjoy on a walk down the Uxbridge Road this morning an advertisement for - a Picture Framers's... )
                              That comment is a rather pedantic.

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                              • Don Petter

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ... a pedant writes : From about #1234 above there has been nothing appropriately pedantic. Can we please return to Oxford commas and, ceteris paribus, things higher than a greengrocer's apostrophe? (Tho' I did enjoy on a walk down the Uxbridge Road this morning an advertisement for - a Picture Framers's... )

                                Here's a paribus (suit enthusiast ...):

                                B27. An old Paris bus, seen parked by the roadside somewhere in France, but I really can’t remember where. However, I think that it may have been somewhere in Brittany. It appears to have found a new lease of life being used as a mobile shop. C.1964. Copyright © Ron Fisher.

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