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... which of us is not?Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
" ... I contain multitudes"
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Was Serial thinking of the King James Bible?Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
"For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many."
It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Affirming rather than swearing an oath. (ff's mention of the KJV put me in mind of this, which I'd spotted this morning.)
This extract (from today's Times) omits to mention that the new Green MP for Bristol Central (replacing the former shadow culture secretary) is a Quaker, and they don't swear oaths either!
Is that your constituency, ff?
Analysis by Humanists UK has found that 249 of the 625 MPs
whose decisions are known chose to affirm. However, the majority of MPs, 338, swore on the Bible, usually the King James version.
There were 14 Muslim MPs, who swore on the Quran, and Rishi
Sunak was one of three MPs to swear on the Bhagavad Gita, the Hindu holy book. There are also likely to be a handful of religious MPs, including Tim Farron, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats and a Christian, who affirmed because their beliefs prohibit oaths.
The big jump in irreligious MPs was the result of the Labour landslide in which Starmer’s party won 412 MPs. Almost half of Labour MPs — 47 per cent — affirmed, compared with only 9 per cent of Conservatives. The Liberal Democrats, who won a record 72 seats, also had 47 per cent of their MPs make an affirmation.
The Greens are the most irreligious party, with all of their four MPs affirming, and six of the SNP’s nine MPs did the same. One of Nigel Farage’s five Reform MPs affirmed.Comment
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Not exactly - I was merely thinking specifically of the Starmer in clever disguise who says and does this, and the one revealed who says and does the opposite. Who can guess what others lurk behind this dodgy persona?Originally posted by french frank View Post
Was Serial thinking of the King James Bible?
"For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many."
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Photo caption in today's Sunday Times:
Zoe Hamburger, 39, is an alumnae of the Worldwide Hamburger Marketing University
No, she isn't. But at least they got the gender right, so someone tried....Comment
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... but perhaps Zoe identified as 'them' - so alumnae a possibilityOriginally posted by Pulcinella View Post
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THE PEDANTS' REVOLT
Wat Tyler: I thought I would have less followers than this.
The Crowd: Fewer!Comment
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But if Zoe is a they, would we not have to have: Zoe are alumnae?Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
... but perhaps Zoe identified as 'them' - so alumnae a possibility
(That's not as silly a question as it might appear. I got criticised previously for showing my distaste for the use of 'they', which is partly because it results in clumsiness in certain instances, and ambiguities in others, and this seems a prime example of where it goes awry.)Last edited by Pulcinella; 14-07-24, 08:38.Comment
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In some counties "they is" would be perfectly acceptable
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We was talking about that only yesterday.Originally posted by Old Grumpy View PostIn some counties "they is" would be perfectly acceptable
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No-o-o-o-o ... because that would be even more confusing as it would confirm Zoe as more than one person. 'Zoe is an alumnae' would be wrong but at least it's obvious what is wrong.Originally posted by Pulcinella View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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