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  • oddoneout
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    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Here food and recyclables are collected every week. Black rubbish bins once a fortnight - which I think is a good thing. People should be encouraged to reduce the amount of stuff that goes into landfill or - worse in some ways - is incinerated. And I say unto you: reduce, reuse, recycle. And the greatest of these is ... reduce :-)
    A very early cotton shopping bag that our local council handed out had "reject, reduce, reuse, repair, recycle" printed on it. Once targets came in for council recycling levels the prevention stages went out the window as it was all about maxing the recycling rates. As one city council(which hadn't met its recycling targets) pointed out that meant that if they managed to significantly reduce the amount going to landfill in the first place by preventing it being created or thrown away, that would be penalised as it would reduce the recycling rate...

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  • french frank
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    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

    On occasions there's so little in my grey bin that I wait another fortnight before putting it out.
    Me too - I have the smaller size of bin and sometimes can go for six weeks before I put it out. But as it's near the front gate one of the men often will come and peer into it, and will take the odd bag out. And leave the gate wide open - but I forgive them

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  • LMcD
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    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Here food and recyclables are collected every week. Black rubbish bins once a fortnight - which I think is a good thing. People should be encouraged to reduce the amount of stuff that goes into landfill or - worse in some ways - is incinerated. And I say unto you: reduce, reuse, recycle. And the greatest of these is ... reduce :-)
    On occasions there's so little in my grey bin that I wait another fortnight before putting it out.

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  • french frank
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    Here food and recyclables are collected every week. Black rubbish bins once a fortnight - which I think is a good thing. People should be encouraged to reduce the amount of stuff that goes into landfill or - worse in some ways - is incinerated. And I say unto you: reduce, reuse, recycle. And the greatest of these is ... reduce :-)

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  • LMcD
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    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

    ... here we get food bins emptied weekly - but the recycling bin and the rubbish bin are emptied twice a week



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    Here, it's anything recyclable (blue bin) and garden waste (brown bin) one week and anything bagged (grey bin) the next. The brown bin (which I don't use) costs an additional ยฃ52.50 a year.

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  • vinteuil
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    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    In this age of "small mercies" I guess we have to appreciate Southwark council for still providing weekly collections for all our bins.
    ... here we get food bins emptied weekly - but the recycling bin and the rubbish bin are emptied twice a week



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  • Serial_Apologist
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    Originally posted by smittims View Post
    Yes, good point, oddoneout. I do tell the council litter bin emptiers that I think they're doing a valuable job.
    Which hopefully they know! I always thank them (when I catch them) for returning the bins to the bins compound rather than as usual leaving them at the end of our collective driveway, blocking residents' garages, where it is then up to Yours Truly (the one retired regular in the block) to do. In this age of "small mercies" I guess we have to appreciate Southwark council for still providing weekly collections for all our bins.

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  • smittims
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    Yes, good point, oddoneout. I do tell the council litter bin emptiers that I think they're doing a valuable job.

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  • Old Grumpy
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    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

    The fact that someone is paid to provide the service you have just received isn't necessarily a reason for withholding thanks. Most of those who provide the kind of services that make life that bit better(refuse collection and toilet cleaning for instance) will receive no thanks from their employers, and are largely ignored unless something goes wrong, so a word of thanks from those of us who benefit from their work costs nothing and can be a real boost.

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  • vinteuil
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    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

    Used to having staff not so long ago?
    It's just thank you here, and what I've found interesting is that youngsters will often say it as they leave the bus - and may even look up while doing so - and the older generation generally do so, but there is quite a large age cohort in between who just barge off the bus as quickly as they can without any acknowledgement.
    ... interesting, I had not noticed the younger generation doing this : here it is those of African / West Indian heritage (and particularly the women) who most clearly say "Thank you, driver" when leaving the bus. I think I did not do this when younger ; I do now...

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  • LMcD
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    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    It's my belief that 'Thank you very much indeed' is a patrician form of language, and implies - at least to me - that the speaker considers a bare 'thank you' may be considered insincere.
    Shades of Margo Leadbetter - 'Thank you VERY much, Tom'.

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  • oddoneout
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    Originally posted by smittims View Post
    I've sometimes been reproved for not saying 'thank you' to someone who's done only what they were obliged to do anyeway. I think such words are more effective when reserved for occasions when they are more appropriate.
    The fact that someone is paid to provide the service you have just received isn't necessarily a reason for withholding thanks. Most of those who provide the kind of services that make life that bit better(refuse collection and toilet cleaning for instance) will receive no thanks from their employers, and are largely ignored unless something goes wrong, so a word of thanks from those of us who benefit from their work costs nothing and can be a real boost. I speak as one who had toilet cleaning and litter bin emptying as one part of my job for the last 15 years...

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  • kernelbogey
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    It's my belief that 'Thank you very much indeed' is a patrician form of language, and implies - at least to me - that the speaker considers a bare 'thank you' may be considered insincere.

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  • oddoneout
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    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

    ... o, we're much more formal in Shepherd's Bush. It's "Thank you, driver" here

    Used to having staff not so long ago?
    It's just thank you here, and what I've found interesting is that youngsters will often say it as they leave the bus - and may even look up while doing so - and the older generation generally do so, but there is quite a large age cohort in between who just barge off the bus as quickly as they can without any acknowledgement.

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  • smittims
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    and 'Thank you' for the reminder, frankie! I always say 'thank you' to Bus drivers, it's a rite.

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