Pedants' Paradise

[Serial_Apologist]

... and to reflect the age of its listeners.

Surely in that case it would have to be re-named the Ancient Listener's Show. Or Listeners' on their assuming there to be more than one!

[french frank]

... and to reflect the age of its listeners.

<cough> <cough> Far be it from me ...

[LMcD]

Shhh! Don't give them ideas - they might cancel it!

I doubt if they welcome suggestions from non-authorized sources such as yours truly!

[gurnemanz]

Perhaps Friday Night Is Music Night could be renamed the Ancient Music Show, seeing as it's been around for so long..

... and to reflect the age of its listeners.

[Serial_Apologist]

Perhaps Friday Night Is Music Night could be renamed the Ancient Music Show, seeing as it's been around for so long..

Shhh! Don't give them ideas - they might cancel it!

[LMcD]

Perhaps Friday Night Is Music Night could be renamed the Ancient Music Show, seeing as it's been around for so long..

[vinteuil]

It might indeed, though Christopher Hogwood's group is the Academy of Ancient Music but it was established 50 years ago, possibly before Early Music was a Thing.

Chris: Hogwood's orchestra was itself named after the 'earlier' 1731 Academy of Ancient Music -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Ancient_Music

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[french frank]

I think 'Early' might be preferable to 'Ancient'.

It might indeed, though Christopher Hogwood's group is the Academy of Ancient Music but it was established 50 years ago, possibly before Early Music was a Thing.

[oddoneout]

Getting there ... this morning we're to hear the 'Berlin Academy for Ancient Music' which is at least a complete translation, although I think 'Early' might be preferable to 'Ancient'.

In recent months they've been getting themselves in a real tangle with anglicising forrin titles of ensembles and the likes of operas. It hasn't been easy for presenters I think who might have spent many years saying the original(correct in my view but that's another argument) version and may go into automatic and have to change gear midway. The version you quote I have heard several times and, like you I wish they would use "Early" - not least as it's more accurate in terms of what they do. Mind you, given the Beeb's seeming fear of anything pre mid 19thC, let alone what we might understand as early, I suppose Ancient fits their (mis)perception...

[LMcD]

Muy bien!

Getting there ... this morning we're to hear the 'Berlin Academy for Ancient Music' which is at least a complete translation, although I think 'Early' might be preferable to 'Ancient'.

[Serial_Apologist]

Académie für Ancient Musique
per favore?

Muy bien!

[LMcD]

Académie für Ancient Musique
per favore?

A fine ensemble who occasionally tour with Holy Cecily's National Academy.

[AuntDaisy]

Petroc has just mentioned the 'Academy for Alte Musik', a 'semi-translation' which just doesn't sound right to me

Académie für Ancient Musique
per favore?

[LMcD]

Petroc has just mentioned the 'Academy for Alte Musik', a 'semi-translation' which just doesn't sound right to me

[french frank]

... yes - almost akin to the Greek 'middle voice' - not active or passive voice, but "a verb voice that indicates the subject is both the agent and the focus of an action, or is somehow involved with the action. In other words, the subject is both the cause and the experiencer of the action."
As also "the door opens"
.

Indeed. But the example 'She's hurting because he won't commit' makes one cringe for reasons other than the use of a intransitive verb.