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  • Pulcinella
    Host
    • Feb 2014
    • 10669

    Passengers are facing delays at Manchester Airport after an IT failure prevented many from checking-in at all three terminals.

    (BBC Online News)

    Forget the fact that checking in doesn't need hyphenating: I didn't realise that you might ever have to check in at all three terminals.

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 8962

      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Passengers are facing delays at Manchester Airport after an IT failure prevented many from checking-in at all three terminals.

      (BBC Online News)

      Forget the fact that checking in doesn't need hyphenating: I didn't realise that you might ever have to check in at all three terminals.
      No wonder there was an IT failure.

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 8962

        Home Office’s much maligned “hostile environment” policy
        This appears in an Observer article I've been reading on the Guardian website, and I'm struggling to see how 'much maligned' can be justified; it suggests the Home Office has not been carrying out orders to that effect. It would make more sense to describe the policy as malign in my opinion.

        Link for article for context https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rough-sleepers

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8094

          A report on 'Today' this morning referred to 'campaigners in Northern Ireland advocating for reform' (?)

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            A report on 'Today' this morning referred to 'campaigners in Northern Ireland advocating for reform' (?)
            Who made this report? If someone from the six counties, was it simply a local construction, much like the use of “to” by many Welsh people, as in “where’s the scissors to?”.

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7353

              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
              A report on 'Today' this morning referred to 'campaigners in Northern Ireland advocating for reform' (?)
              Maybe the error stems from drawing a false parallel with the noun + preposition construction, "an advocate for reform" which is acceptable usage.

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12661

                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                A report on 'Today' this morning referred to 'campaigners in Northern Ireland advocating for reform' (?)
                ... my OED has quotes using the verbal form 'advocate for' from 1659, 1661, 1872.

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                • Zucchini
                  Guest
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 917

                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... my OED has quotes using the verbal form 'advocate for' from 1659, 1661, 1872.
                  So within the lifetime of many Telegraph readers ...

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37312

                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Who made this report? If someone from the six counties, was it simply a local construction, much like the use of “to” by many Welsh people, as in “where’s the scissors to?”.
                    Also Bristolians, I'd just like to add - from the pre-M4 era - as in, "London? Wurr's that to?"

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8094

                      The correct pronunciation of the well-known orchestra based in Zurich is, I believe, TONEHALLUH. At the end of tonight's concert, a Radio 3 presenter who can't pronounce it properly handed over to a colleague in the studio who can - I guess 50% is a start!

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                        The correct pronunciation of the well-known orchestra based in Zurich is, I believe, TONEHALLUH. At the end of tonight's concert, a Radio 3 presenter who can't pronounce it properly handed over to a colleague in the studio who can - I guess 50% is a start!
                        Should that not be more like Tonn-halluh? Or around half way between?
                        Last edited by Bryn; 15-07-19, 21:51.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8094

                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Should that not be more like Tonn-halluh? Or around half way between?
                          Well, I think you'd better ask the Countess in 'Capriccio', who poses the question 'Kunst oder Ton'?
                          I've just checked the pronunciation of 'Tonmeister', which comes out as 'Tonemicesta'

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            Well, I think you'd better ask the Countess in 'Capriccio', who poses the question 'Kunst oder Ton'?
                            I've just checked the pronunciation of 'Tonmeister', which comes out as 'Tonemicesta'
                            I think you will find the Swiss German pronunciation of the "Ton" syllable is neither that of the English "ton" or "tone". The closest I can think of is to rhyme with "on", rather than "own", though more something between the two. It's not helped by the fact that the only online example of pronouncing "Tonhalle-Orchester" is way off. There is, however, an example of the German pronunciation of Tonhalle which serves pretty well, https://forvo.com/word/tonhalle/

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                            • LeMartinPecheur
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4717

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Also Bristolians, I'd just like to add - from the pre-M4 era - as in, "London? Wurr's that to?"
                              The same in Cornwall.
                              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25175

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                Also Bristolians, I'd just like to add - from the pre-M4 era - as in, "London? Wurr's that to?"
                                And as far south and East as Westbury , Wilts.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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