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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostNot to be confused with Frances de la Tour......It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Surreal
Prompted by its use elsewhere by a regular border, I looked it up in OED: Having the qualities of surrealist art; bizarre, dreamlike.
Sadly, in my view, its specific meaning is being weakened to mean something like very unusual, bizarre, extraordinary, not yet reflected in the OED gloss. Of course language changes and evolves, but I suppose (sigh) this is but one example of a general trend of the force of some words to be weakened by overusage: tragedy, disaster, nightmare, hero being some examples that spring quickly and easily to mind.
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostSurreal
Prompted by its use elsewhere by a regular border, I looked it up in OED: Having the qualities of surrealist art; bizarre, dreamlike.
Sadly, in my view, its specific meaning is being weakened to mean something like very unusual, bizarre, extraordinary, not yet reflected in the OED gloss. Of course language changes and evolves, but I suppose (sigh) this is but one example of a general trend of the force of some words to be weakened by overusage: tragedy, disaster, nightmare, hero being some examples that spring quickly and easily to mind.
Take 'awesome' - what's the comparative? 'Really awesome'!
[*copyright Pabmusic]
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostPerhaps he was trying to say "Will that be awesome for now, sir?"It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostWhich reminds me - I'm always struck by the difference between the English, "Will that be all, sir/madam?" and the French, more briskly hopeful or encouraging, "Et après ça?"
... yes indeed. When I arrived in Paris I noticed that whenever I went to the greengrocer/butcher/baker to buy a lettuce / a nice bit of lamb / a baguette - the instantaneous riposte was " ... et avec cela? ".
Such a simple marketing ploy, odd that we didn't adopt it in these islands....
Ah well, the French - a nation of shopkeepers, as Napoleon meant to say.
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostSurreal
Prompted by its use elsewhere by a regular border
"a surreal mix of fact and fantasy"
synonyms: zany · madcap · offbeat · quirky · outlandish · eccentric · idiosyncratic · surreal · ridiculous · nonsensical · crazy · absurd · insane · far out · fantastic · bizarre · peculiar · weird · odd · strange · [more] - which seems to sum up Eddie Mair to a T - omitting the essential "dreamlike" element which obviously supports your argument about the weakening of the term.
Though - since you have elevated this to Pedant's Corner, I'd like to point out that I'm a boarder, not a border (herbaceous or otherwise)
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