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  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    ... one hand clapping is zen koan [innit?] pedant thread &c
    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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    • Flosshilde
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      I'm not sure if this has anything to do with pedantry, but I had assumed that the word 'trending' (to describe a topic that is developing on Twitter - I think) was a neologism. However, I've just read H. Rider Haggard's King Solomons' Mines - published about 1895 - & came across a close variant used to descrbe the direction of a road - I think (I no longer have the book to refer to) the context was something like 'The road trended to the left'.

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      • mangerton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3346

        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        'The road trended to the left'.
        It could perhaps be a typo for "wended", or even "bended".

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        • Panjandrum

          The confusing of "discrete" and "discreet". Even one of our notorious pedants failed to make the correct distinction on a recent thread.

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          • Pabmusic
            Full Member
            • May 2011
            • 5537

            Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
            The confusing of "discrete" and "discreet". Even one of our notorious pedants failed to make the correct distinction on a recent thread.
            Agreed. 'Forego' and 'forgo' is another trap.

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            • Lateralthinking1

              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
              Agreed. 'Forego' and 'forgo' is another trap.
              I wrote that word yesterday. Isn't it either?

              The Free Dictionary

              for·go also fore·go (fôr-g, fr-)
              tr.v. for·went also fore·went (-wnt), for·gone also fore·gone (-gôn, -gn), for·go·ing also fore·go·ing, for·goes also fore·goes
              To abstain from; relinquish: unwilling to forgo dessert.


              I am looking for advice on 'equable' and 'equitable'. What is the difference please?

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              • mangerton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3346

                Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post

                I am looking for advice on 'equable' and 'equitable'. What is the difference please?
                Yes, these two words are frequently confused - dare I say, even recently on another thread here.

                Equitable means fair, equal, reasonable. Demonstrating equity. An equitable sytem of taxation.

                Equable can be used to describe a person - placid, calm, even-tempered.

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                • Lateralthinking1

                  Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                  Yes, these two words are frequently confused - dare I say, even recently on another thread here.

                  Equitable means fair, equal, reasonable. Demonstrating equity. An equitable sytem of taxation.

                  Equable can be used to describe a person - placid, calm, even-tempered.
                  Thanks mangerton. For a moment, 'equitable' looked very American and I had genuine doubts but I will continue to use it. For every possible reason I can think of, I doubt that I will now have much need to use 'equable'. This doesn't feel like the right era for it.

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                  • amateur51

                    Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                    The confusing of "discrete" and "discreet". Even one of our notorious pedants failed to make the correct distinction on a recent thread.
                    Now that is discreet

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                    • Pabmusic
                      Full Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 5537

                      Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                      I wrote that word yesterday. Isn't it either?
                      I'd love to say "no, it's not", but we don't like being proscriptive with spellings any more, do we? 'Forego' means to precede, to go before; 'forgo' means to do without. They do not have a common derivation. The trouble is that we don't often use the verb 'forego' as such any more, except in set expressions, such as 'a foregone conclusion', or 'the foregoing paragraph', so people have largely forgotten it's meaning. Many dictionaries (but not all, by any means) seem to include it now as an alternative to 'forgo'. Maybe we've lost the battle to preserve a distinction - it's a little sad, though, this preservation of misunderstandings.
                      Last edited by Pabmusic; 10-06-12, 09:33.

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                      • gurnemanz
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7380

                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        I'd love to say "no, it's not", but we don't like being proscriptive with spellings any more, do we? 'Forego' means to precede, to go before; 'forgo' means to do without. They do not have a common derivation. The trouble is that we don't often use the verb 'forego' as such any more, except in set expressions, such as 'a foregone conclusion', or 'the foregoing paragraph', so people have largely forgotten it's meaning. Many dictionaries (but not all, by any means) seem to include it now as an alternative to 'forgo'. Maybe we've lost the battle to preserve a distinction - it's a little sad, though, this preservation of misunderstandings.
                        SOED has a nice sample usage for "forego":

                        J. Payne: His head forewent his feet and he fell to the ground.

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                        • Pabmusic
                          Full Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                          SOED has a nice sample usage for "forego":

                          J. Payne: His head forewent his feet and he fell to the ground.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26515

                            It doesn't really take a pedant to object to this, but the total misuse of the word 'literally' seems to be more and more prevalent, especially in the media.

                            I just heard a classic. I was just watching the start of a motor race (British Touring Cars) and as the camera focused on a particular car on the grid, the commentator said "Tom will be looking to literally make hay in these warm conditions"...







                            (Reminds one of that famous footage from the British GP at Silverstone in 1973 I think, when Jackie Stewart had an "off" and like a combine harvester cut a great swathe through the long grass in the infield, emerging with tufts sticking out everywhere)
                            Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 10-06-12, 12:57.
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Pabmusic
                              Full Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              [COLOR="#0000FF"]It doesn't really take a pedant to object to this, but the total misuse of the word 'literally' seems to be more and more prevalent, especially in the media.
                              "The legendary fiddler literally flew through the last movement of Mendelssohn's iconic concerto". Apocryphal, but...

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26515

                                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                                "The legendary fiddler literally flew through the last movement of Mendelssohn's iconic concerto". Apocryphal, but...
                                Exactly!
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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