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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37589

    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
    I heard 'surface' used as a verb today, not as in surfacing a road but along these lines:

    "We only surface companies on our website which deliver...blah, blah, blah..."

    Is this a new one?
    Sure it wasn't "service" ard?

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      I congratulated the Plymouth and Newton Abbott branches of Waterstone's recently, because they have kept the old signs that retain the apostrophe. The staff member who served me said they had a book I might be interested in, but would have to show me where it was, rather than telling me the titles. When she handed it to me, I understood why. It was called "F***ing Apostrophes".

      I had to buy it.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37589

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        I congratulated the Plymouth and Newton Abbott branches of Waterstone's recently, because they have kept the old signs that retain the apostrophe. The staff member who served me said they had a book I might be interested in, but would have to show me where it was, rather than telling me the titles. When she handed it to me, I understood why. It was called "F***ing Apostrophes".

        I had to buy it.
        I seem to remember there used to be a station on the Southern Region line from Waterloo to Guildford which was called Effingham Junction. Wonder if it's still there...

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          I seem to remember there used to be a station on the Southern Region line from Waterloo to Guildford which was called Effingham Junction. Wonder if it's still there...

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          • anotherbob
            Full Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 1172

            There is a trailer currently showing on BBC TV in which the opening words are "It's incredible to believe..."
            Shome mishtake surely?

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            • ardcarp
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11102

              Sure it wasn't "service" ard?
              Sure. 5mins 45sec into You and Yours today.



              Exact quote: "....there wasn't enough information being surfaced"

              (Unless my hearing has gone peculiar.)

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30235

                Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                There is a trailer currently showing on BBC TV in which the opening words are "It's incredible to believe..."
                Shome mishtake surely?
                Grammar possibly? Should be: "It's unbeLIEvable that anyone would believe that …", or "That is sooo unbeLIEvable that surely NO one would believe it". I wonder what it was
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Grammar possibly? Should be: "It's unbeLIEvable that anyone would believe that …", or "That is sooo unbeLIEvable that surely NO one would believe it". I wonder what it was
                  I didn't see the trailer, but when I read bob2's post, I wondered if they'd meant "It's incredible to think/realize that the BBC pays somebody to write this stuff"?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • oddoneout
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9141

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    Grammar possibly? Should be: "It's unbeLIEvable that anyone would believe that …", or "That is sooo unbeLIEvable that surely NO one would believe it". I wonder what it was
                    Not quite tautology - depending on what the whole sentence was. Sadly I expect it was the 'written in haste, no time to check, sounds OK,' school of writing in action. Those of us who read or listen, as opposed to skim, will get snagged on such things and overthink them.

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                    • anotherbob
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1172

                      Many perfectly good adjectives are dying a slow death as they are replaced by "incredible", usually exclaimed by wide-eyed breathless presenters on encountering something which might once have been described as "remarkable", "surprising", "magnificent", "unusual", "impressive", "fascinating", "wonderful" etc. etc.
                      Does anyone remember what "incredible" means?
                      We need a moratorium on the use of "incredible". It's lazy and almost always incorrect.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37589

                        Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                        Many perfectly good adjectives are dying a slow death as they are replaced by "incredible", usually exclaimed by wide-eyed breathless presenters on encountering something which might once have been described as "remarkable", "surprising", "magnificent", "unusual", "impressive", "fascinating", "wonderful" etc. etc.
                        Does anyone remember what "incredible" means?
                        We need a moratorium on the use of "incredible". It's lazy and almost always incorrect.
                        Not credible!

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30235

                          Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                          Does anyone remember what "incredible" means?
                          Anyone remember the stoney-faced Swede Bjorn Borg? When asked 'how he felt' about his game after another win, the stoney reply: Today I played incredible.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Lat-Literal
                            Guest
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6983

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Anyone remember the stoney-faced Swede Bjorn Borg? When asked 'how he felt' about his game after another win, the stoney reply: Today I played incredible.
                            Yes - and it started a pattern with tennis players of "I played great" etc. I liked Borg very much. I like many, if not all, of the players who are inclined to such phrases but have always been uncomfortable with them. It is part language difference and a bigger part sports psychology, at least today, but it is also part big headedness. I look for the other sentences around them so as to find a more positive and, hopefully, accurate picture. Even the admirable Federer is not immune from this although, as with others, he's become more nuanced with age.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30235

                              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                              Yes - and it started a pattern with tennis players of "I played great" etc. I liked Borg very much. I like many, if not all, of the players who are inclined to such phrases but have always been uncomfortable with them. It is part language difference and a bigger part sports psychology, at least today, but it is also part big headedness. I look for the other sentences around them so as to find a more positive and, hopefully, accurate picture. Even the admirable Federer is not immune from this although, as with others, he's become more nuanced with age.
                              I imagine non-English speakers are inclined to copy what they hear without necessarily getting the usage correct.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37589

                                Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                                Yes - and it started a pattern with tennis players of "I played great" etc. I liked Borg very much. I like many, if not all, of the players who are inclined to such phrases but have always been uncomfortable with them. It is part language difference and a bigger part sports psychology, at least today, but it is also part big headedness. I look for the other sentences around them so as to find a more positive and, hopefully, accurate picture. Even the admirable Federer is not immune from this although, as with others, he's become more nuanced with age.
                                Well, as well as a distraction offering people something other than the genuinely worrying to worry about, sport today epitomises the capitalist ethos, eg the myth of meritocracy that says the system freely allows anybody to get to the top through self-application. But, there would be no top to get to if everyone was free to get there, though merit or whatever means, because there would be no bottom or middle either. But they don't tell you that: you have to work it out for yourself, and risk being called a party pooper.

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