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  • Word
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 132

    If the English Spelling Society have considered adopting the American spelling for words such as 'colour', particularly if it is with the intention of simplifying pronunciation, then they should be taken across the Atlantic and shot.
    Thanks to the 'u' the pronunciation of 'colour' has a warmth entirely lacking from 'col-OR'.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      A word I have only just come across appears to have been invented in 1965: oracy - as a counterpart to literacy. If it was indeed a useful addition to the language, why have I never heard/read it before?

      [I followed a link on the BBC news story about Finland's PBL experiments in their schools and it was on an education-based website]
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22182

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        A word I have only just come across appears to have been invented in 1965: oracy - as a counterpart to literacy. If it was indeed a useful addition to the language, why have I never heard/read it before?

        [I followed a link on the BBC news story about Finland's PBL experiments in their schools and it was on an education-based website]
        On a similar theme I often think of those with maths problems as being dysnumeric cf dyslexic, but does the word exist? Checking it suggests that dyscalculic might be preferable but in typing this now both words get the red line.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          On a similar theme I often think of those with maths problems as being dysnumeric cf dyslexic, but does the word exist? Checking it suggests that dyscalculic might be preferable but in typing this now both words get the red line.
          - The red line merely shows that the computer is higgerent!



          ... cf in particular: "Most studies done with comorbid samples versus dyscalculic-only samples have shown different mechanisms at work ..."

          PS: "comorbid" gets the red line, too!
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • jean
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7100

            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            A word I have only just come across appears to have been invented in 1965: oracy - as a counterpart to literacy. If it was indeed a useful addition to the language, why have I never heard/read it before?
            You'd have heard of it if you'd dabbled in applied linguistics!

            I often apply the term innumeracy to myself, but that's a counterpart to literacy and oract rather than dyslexia, and my incapacity is as much difficulty in seeing numbers clearly, especially the order they occur in, rather than an inability to manipulate them.

            (I do think dyslectic is a much more etymologically-satisfying form than dyslexic.)

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7405

              Re oracy. The mention of this unfamiliar concept on here helped me solve a clue in today's i paper cryptic crossword:

              "Account penned by Conservative initially lacking fluency"

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                It's always surprised me that the return of explicit grammar teaching at KS2 hasn't provoked an outcry, given that it has brought back so much of what was (rightly) deemed useless in the 1960s - including the subjunctive!

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 11062

                  According to the advert for Help Musicians on the back of the July 2017 issue of BBC Music Magazine....

                  His [Beethoven's] 200 year-old compositions are still packing concert halls today.

                  Has anyone heard any of them?

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    According to the advert for Help Musicians on the back of the July 2017 issue of BBC Music Magazine....

                    His [Beethoven's] 200 year-old compositions are still packing concert halls today.

                    Has anyone heard any of them?
                    The only Beethoven 1817 composition I can think of is Op. 137 Fugue for String Quintet, not a work frequently performed, let alone "packing concert halls" today. There again, he did start serious work on the 9th Symphony that year.

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                    • Pulcinella
                      Host
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 11062

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      The only Beethoven 1817 composition I can think of is Op. 137 Fugue for String Quintet, not a work frequently performed, let alone "packing concert halls" today. There again, he did start serious work on the 9th Symphony that year.
                      I fear you (deliberately?) missed the point: the missing hyphen suggests that he was more of an infant phenomenon than we might previously have realised.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        I fear you (deliberately?) missed the point: the missing hyphen suggests that he was more of an infant phenomenon than we might previously have realised.
                        Just expressing an alternative truth, don't you know.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37814

                          Tereezer? Or Terayzer?

                          I tend to favour the first.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22182

                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            Tereezer? Or Terayzer?

                            I tend to favour the first.
                            Either but I don't think Teri or Treece!

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26572

                              Are the words "probable" and "likely" synonyms?

                              I've always assumed so, without ever thinking much about it. (In the law, they are pretty much interchangeable... "on the balance of probabilities", "more likely than not")

                              However someone this morning was trying to convince me that "probable" just means 'more than 50%' whereas "likely" indicates a higher chance...

                              The thoughts of learnèd forumites welcome.
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20572

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                Are the words "probable" and "likely" synonyms?

                                I've always assumed so, without ever thinking much about it. (In the law, they are pretty much interchangeable... "on the balance of probabilities", "more likely than not")

                                However someone this morning was trying to convince me that "probable" just means 'more than 50%' whereas "likely" indicates a higher chance...
                                I would have thought they were interchangeable. You might use "likely" when a higher chance is indicated, but prefixed with the word "more".

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