Pedants' Paradise

[kernelbogey]

...an honorary title "Elizabeth Mayor" of somewhere (like a "Regis Professor")?

For when you've been mayor for, say, more than 60 years?

[Pulcinella]

Yes - is there somebody with the name "Elizabeth Mayor Christian Bollwage" (Ms E M C Bollwage), or is there an honorary title "Elizabeth Mayor" of somewhere (like a "Regis Professor")?

I have assumed that the person is the Mayor of a place called Elizabeth! Am I right?
But it did take a couple of attempts to work it out.

PS: yes, I could have checked the story.
Not just a place: a city!

[french frank]

It was the Elizabeth that puzzled me - and I don't see how punctuation would have clarified that (though if I'd read the whole story I would have known).

Yes, why did they call a place 'Elizabeth?' Charlottesville, perhaps. Or Georgetown.

is there somebody with the name "Elizabeth Mayor Christian Bollwage" (Ms E M C Bollwage)

Which is, of course, exactly the way my mind was working …

[vinteuil]

Yes - is there somebody with the name "Elizabeth Mayor Christian Bollwage" (Ms E M C Bollwage), or is there an honorary title "Elizabeth Mayor" of somewhere (like a "Regis Professor")?

... as this be a pedantick thread ...


Regis for Bognors, Regius for Perfessers

[Serial_Apologist]

... as this be a pedantick thread ...


Regis for Bognors, [B]

But that would be for a standard Bognor secondary modern, one presumes.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

... as this be a pedantick thread ...


Regis for Bognors, Regius for Perfessers

[Lat-Literal]

So (the required beginning of any sentence etc now for anyone under 40)

.......clarion clear - Lynne Featherstone this afternoon.

I hope that the phrase doesn't catch on but it will do as that is what happens in politics.

[vinteuil]

.......clarion clear.

... why not order some today?

http://www.amazon.in/dp/B00XR46ZPA

[Oldcrofter]

Here's Mayor Bollwage of Elizabeth, New Jersey

http://www.elizabethnj.org/city-council/biography

As nearly every pedant already knows, "Elizabeth, originally called "Elizabethtown" and part of the Elizabethtown Tract, was founded in 1664 by English settlers. The town was not named for Queen Elizabeth I as many people may assume, but rather for Elizabeth, wife of Sir George Carteret, one of the two original Proprietors of the colony of New Jersey. " info from Mr/Mrs/Ms Wiki.

[Serial_Apologist]

Here's Mayor Bollwage of Elizabeth, New Jersey

http://www.elizabethnj.org/city-council/biography

As nearly every pedant already knows, "Elizabeth, originally called "Elizabethtown" and part of the Elizabethtown Tract, was founded in 1664 by English settlers. The town was not named for Queen Elizabeth I as many people may assume, but rather for Elizabeth, wife of Sir George Carteret, one of the two original Proprietors of the colony of New Jersey. " info from Mr/Mrs/Ms Wiki.

Well, thanks for taking the trouble, OC. Now we can all relax!

[gurnemanz]

It is surprising that an announcer on a classical music station does not take the trouble to be familiar with even the simplest elements of German pronunciation. This morning Sarah Walker ignored the umlaut on the Tölzer Knabenchor. Presumably she would not mispronounce better-known occurrences such as with the conductor, Karl Böhm, composer, Schönberg, or the song, Erlkönig. It is surely not a difficult pronunciation rule to master.

[ahinton]

It is surprising that an announcer on a classical music station does not take the trouble to be familiar with even the simplest elements of German pronunciation. This morning Sarah Walker ignored the umlaut on the Tölzer Knabenchor. Presumably she would not mispronounce better-known occurrences such as with the conductor, Karl Böhm, composer, Schönberg, or the song, Erlkönig. It is surely not a difficult pronunciation rule to master.

Indeed but, without knowing the facts, that might have been because it was omitted from her script and, whilst she would be expected to know (and I'm quite sure does know) how to pronounce Böhm, Schönberg and Erlkönig (even with a trace of Barnsley accent) because she's obviously heard of them all, she might reasonably be forgiven for not necessarily having heard of the Tölzer Knabenchor and therefore mispronouncing it because it was mis-spelt in said script.

[french frank]

that might have been because it was omitted from her script

A point that arises with Richard Tarleton's bete [sic] noire - the mispronunciation of Tárrega. Whether you've ever heard of him or not, the accent might guide you. But if it isn't there, as [now ex-]Radio 3 pompously announced, it is 'counter-intuitive' to stress the first syllable …

[Bryn]

As has been mentioned here on numerous previous occasions, Radio 3 presenters write their own scripts, so if the umlaut was indeed omitted ... .

[Richard Tarleton]

A point that arises with Richard Tarleton's bete [sic] noire - the mispronunciation of Tárrega.

Believe it or not, this works in Spanish - bestia negra, acc. to the Salamanca Dictionary - Persona o cosa que provoca el fracaso....

I was going to say on the whole I find SW's pronunciation of furrin names, whilst uncompromisingly English at times, preferable to the sort of contortions her EC partner in crime finds himself in, and to the affected over-pronunciation we have come to love elsewhere