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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    BBC Young Musician - Brass

    Somehow knowing what the production style was going to be like made it seem less awful, or at least more tolerable. Rather like inoculation. We got to see/hear a reasonable chunk from each performer, though obviously not enough to make a formed opinion as the judges did. I enjoyed the tuba player's wacky piece, and thought the tenor horn certainly deserved his place in Black Dyke Mills.
  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12925

    #2
    BUT what truly got me was that we were well into THIRTEEN minutes of the programme before we heard more than a handful of notes played by ANY of them and the first player got on stage. I mean........................??????

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12925

      #3
      Sad for the tuba player. Seemed to me to be a serious player on a tricky instrument. Ah well.

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #4
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        Somehow knowing what the production style was going to be like made it seem less awful, or at least more tolerable. Rather like inoculation. We got to see/hear a reasonable chunk from each performer, though obviously not enough to make a formed opinion as the judges did. I enjoyed the tuba player's wacky piece, and thought the tenor horn certainly deserved his place in Black Dyke Mills.
        The banmd is called Black Dyke now and has been that for a number of years!!! Did the presenter call it that?

        Un fortun ately I missed this programme last night. Hpowever, this weekend i will watch it! Had a gig myself!
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Hornspieler

          #5
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
          Sad for the tuba player. Seemed to me to be a serious player on a tricky instrument. Ah well.
          The competition is called "Young Musician of the Year"

          Only the winner had an opportunity to display his MUSICIANSHIP!

          What on earth are these young people's tutors doing, sending their pupils to play a load of rubbish which allow for no opportunity to display a feeling for phrasing, interpretation or emotion?

          HS

          PS Hard luck for the young tenor horn player. Technically brilliant, but in the wrong environment to have any chance of winning.

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            The banmd is called Black Dyke now and has been that for a number of years!!! Did the presenter call it that?
            No,probably just me. Sorry if I touched a raw nerve there BBM !

            BUT what truly got me was that we were well into THIRTEEN minutes of the programme before we heard more than a handful of notes played by ANY of them
            Well, I was watching it with my g-kids who are used to CBBC. I just made the coffee during that bit.

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            • DracoM
              Host
              • Mar 2007
              • 12925

              #7
              Of the ninety minutes the prog ran, did anyone count how many minutes we heard the contestants actually play, as opposed to endlessly chat / be interviewed / be seen cleaning their teeth / playing football / shown as being interested in eating or 'normal teen tings'??, or CBH twittering?? Do any of the cameo portraits matter the slightest bit as against their playing in the competition?? Or is this the Beeb's 'medicine in a mess of cherries' approach to making sure they don't frighten the viewers with too much full-on [gosh!] 'classical music'?

              Memo to self: must stop drinking vinegar.

              ardcarp: right. Will go and do other things for 60% of the next programme.
              Last edited by DracoM; 21-04-12, 11:15.

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              • salymap
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5969

                #8
                As I'm not encouraged to watch the programme by the posts so far, could someone tell me who actually won?

                I can work out that it wasn't the tenor horn or the tuba, but............a PM will do if it must be kept generally secret to encourage viewers
                Last edited by salymap; 21-04-12, 11:10.

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                • DracoM
                  Host
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 12925

                  #9
                  No prob: if you have a good book to read, the mute to hand, a glass of something pleasant to hand, then you can spend a happy 90 minutes. Judicious use of mute means you can click back in as soon as the kids come on stage to play and cut out the tosh round it. Easy.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                    No,probably just me. Sorry if I touched a raw nerve there BBM !



                    Well, I was watching it with my g-kids who are used to CBBC. I just made the coffee during that bit.
                    That quite ok ardcarp!! I remember a R3 presenter callinmg the Black Dyke Colliery Band! I mean Gawd!!! (Couldve been SM-P!!)
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #11
                      could someone tell me who actually won?
                      Yep. Bass trombonist.

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                      • Charles_Smith

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                        The competition is called "Young Musician of the Year"

                        Only the winner had an opportunity to display his MUSICIANSHIP!

                        What on earth are these young people's tutors doing, sending their pupils to play a load of rubbish which allow for no opportunity to display a feeling for phrasing, interpretation or emotion?

                        HS

                        PS Hard luck for the young tenor horn player. Technically brilliant, but in the wrong environment to have any chance of winning.
                        Yes, the choice of repertoire was very poor. I appreciated Naomi Atherton's comment on the horn player - that it would have been nice to hear some Beethoven. Her pieces demonstrated all her technical skills, but we never discovered whether she could produce a nice sound or a rounded phrase.

                        Charles

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26466

                          #13
                          I am catching up with this, watching with half an eye to begin with (the remaining eye and a half were on here )... and I suddenly started as I wondered what Gennadi Rozhdestvensky was doing, accompanying the first tenor horn player

                          Speaking as a trombonist, one of the reasons I never did solo stuff (apart from my far-reaching mediocrity ) was that the repertoire for brass showpieces is by-and-large of limited interest to me....
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • ardcarp
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11102

                            #14
                            I wondered what Gennadi Rozhdestvensky was doing, accompanying the first tenor horn player
                            If his day-job is being a Famous-Russian-Conductor-Impersonator, then it's a good thing he had an evening off to accompany that first horn piece. Flippin' difficult,

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26466

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                              If his day-job is being a Famous-Russian-Conductor-Impersonator, then it's a good thing he had an evening off to accompany that first horn piece. Flippin' difficult,
                              It was indeed It was the ferocious piano part that made me look up... and then think "Noddy!!!"

                              Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post

                              Only the winner had an opportunity to display his MUSICIANSHIP!

                              What on earth are these young people's tutors doing...
                              Bit harsh, HS. What was wrong with the VW "Romanza" from the Tube Concerto?

                              I thought the tuba player was outstanding but wouldn't take it away from the winner, who was clearly a knock-out - no doubt even more so live in the hall, where his generosity of sound combined with quality of tone probably marked him out more than through the mikes...
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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