Drop the dead torch ?

[Serial_Apologist]

If you thought Maestro at the Opera was a bad gig
try this

http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newss...-live-music-at

The longest performance of 4' 33" in the record books, if read in a certain way?

[MrGongGong]

The longest performance of 4' 33" in the record books, if read in a certain way?

Surely that means it's not 4'33" ?
or rather an arrangement of 4'33" by La Monte Young

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

or rather an arrangement of 4'33" by La Monte Young

[Flosshilde]

If you thought Maestro at the Opera was a bad gig
try this

http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newss...-live-music-at

I might be mistaken (it has been known ) but didn't you say, during the discussions about the evening concerts on R3, that technically there wasn't any difference between broadcasting a pre-recorded concert & a concert as it was happening, as they were both being mediated by artificial/electronic reproduction? What is the difference between live (musical) performances at the Olympics opening ceremony, which would have to be amplified electronically, & pre-recorded ones? The dishonesty (& the reason why people object to mimed performances) is in having musicians on stage not actually playing anything.

[MrGongGong]

I might be mistaken (it has been known ) but didn't you say, during the discussions about the evening concerts on R3, that technically there wasn't any difference between broadcasting a pre-recorded concert & a concert as it was happening, as they were both being mediated by artificial/electronic reproduction? What is the difference between live (musical) performances at the Olympics opening ceremony, which would have to be amplified electronically, & pre-recorded ones? The dishonesty (& the reason why people object to mimed performances) is in having musicians on stage not actually playing anything.

I dont think I said there wasn't ANY difference but more that they were both technically time delayed ........albeit by different degrees but I might have been over egging (it has been known )

I think the difference at the olympics is that there are parts of it that would be brilliant with musicians physically playing in the same location and amplified rather than "dropping in" pre recorded things. Although I am someone who uses lots of technology in my work , I find the idea of making my computer sound like a piano , for example, (apart from as part of the composition process if i'm unable to imagine or play what i'm writing !) a bit odd as the computer can make wonderful computer music and there are lots of piano's in the world !

[MrGongGong]

So , turning the TV on in my hotel this morning
I see a load of stuff about the torch
and start to find the phone number of my optician
it seems that lots of people have become a bit blurry
then............ realised that one needs permission to say or show anything

So it's a challenge for people to get subliminal messages into the olympics coverage
maybe a North Korean mass games style thing in the stadium would work ?

like this

http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4ec159c0ecad04b147000014-650/pyongyang-north-korea-sam-gellman-koryo-tours-mass-games-travel-photography-may-day-stadium.jpg

with coloured T shirts spelling out the words ....................

?

what would you want to appear ?
If I was going to the torch thing maybe this would be an appropriate garment ?

http://rlv.zcache.com/anti_clegg_tshirt-p235095670336671101qw5h_210.jpg

[Serial_Apologist]

http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4ec159c0ecad04b147000014-650/pyongyang-north-korea-sam-gellman-koryo-tours-mass-games-travel-photography-may-day-stadium.jpg

with coloured T shirts spelling out the words ....................

I bet that was somebody's red letter day!

[Anna]

I've just been reading about East End landlords giving tenants notice to quit as they can rent out properties for £6,000pw and a report in The Guardian about the trial run in the Olympic Park and the rules about confiscating 'excessive' amounts of picnic food brought in, water bottles to be confiscated (you can buy a bottle inside for £1.60) and 2 packets of crisps costing £3.00. and yet, there are thousands of unsold tickets which have been allocated for corporate hospitality (according to The Indy) whilst ordinary punters cannot get their hands on one. Seems like a right rip-off shambles to me, glad I have no interest in it nor live in London. (Civil servants have been told, it appears, to work from home because of tube and traffic hotspots) Why on earth did London pitch for it? All I can see is that anyone in their right minds will stay away from London and the Games and just watch it on tv

[Nick Armstrong]

I've just been reading about East End landlords giving tenants notice to quit as they can rent out properties for £6,000pw and a report in The Guardian about the trial run in the Olympic Park and the rules about confiscating 'excessive' amounts of picnic food brought in, water bottles to be confiscated (you can buy a bottle inside for £1.60) and 2 packets of crisps costing £3.00. and yet, there are thousands of unsold tickets which have been allocated for corporate hospitality (according to The Indy) whilst ordinary punters cannot get their hands on one. Seems like a right rip-off shambles to me, glad I have no interest in it nor live in London. (Civil servants have been told, it appears, to work from home because of tube and traffic hotspots) Why on earth did London pitch for it? All I can see is that anyone in their right minds will stay away from London and the Games and just watch it on tv

I'm trying to be positive but failing, and the torch thing seems like an artifical load of nonsense to me. Wonder what Cloughie thought, he turned out to take a butcher's earlier...

[Anna]

I'm trying to be positive but failing, and the torch thing seems like an artifical load of nonsense to me. Wonder what Cloughie thought, he turned out to take a butcher's earlier...

Caliban, there have been some marvellous programmes about the last time the Olympics were in the UK, 1948. Athletes taking their own sandwiches, bunking up in school halls, men in flat-caps and fags at the finishing line .......... looked a load of fun. Now you can only buy your food at McDonalds ... no egg and cress bridge rolls for you Mr. Caliban and a flask of tea!
The torch thing, David Beckham annoyed me by constantly saying how wonderful for the torch to come to England - well, Hello? It's being lugged round Wales and Scotland as well! I do wish he's said UK or Britain .....

[amateur51]

Caliban, there have been some marvellous programmes about the last time the Olympics were in the UK, 1948. Athletes taking their own sandwiches, bunking up in school halls, men in flat-caps and fags at the finishing line .......... looked a load of fun. Now you can only buy your food at McDonalds ... no egg and cress bridge rolls for you Mr. Caliban and a flask of tea!
The torch thing, David Beckham annoyed me by constantly saying how wonderful for the torch to come to England - well, Hello? It's being lugged round Wales and Scotland as well! I do wish he's said UK or Britain .....

Note from Sir David's minders, Anna - he's not a fast brief and you have to give thanks he's not saying 'USA' these days

[Lateralthinking1]

Princess Anne : C, David Beckham : C-, Boris Johnson : E-, Sebastian Coe : Z-. I'm not sure that I would have been in the crowd.

[teamsaint]

Anybody who has seen the tour de France flash by will surely realise that this is going to be a missable spectacle.

And what was that lighting ceremony about?

people could get arrested for less, in different circumstances. Really weird.

[mangerton]

The torch thing, David Beckham annoyed me by constantly saying how wonderful for the torch to come to England - well, Hello? It's being lugged round Wales and Scotland as well! I do wish he's said UK or Britain .....

Well, I'm sure we've done this before Anna. Many (most?) English people think that England = Great Britain/UK. Many of these people are allowed to appear on the BBC. I find it as offensive as the use of the n, f, or c word, and have told the BBC so on numerous occasions.

But you might as well talk to a brick wall. They just don't get it.

[handsomefortune]

(according to yahoo), the torch is apparently up for sale on e bay already!