Retro Hobsbawn

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  • eighthobstruction
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6406

    Retro Hobsbawn

    Very interesting programme on Archive on 4 this Saturday just gone....archive material, with EH commenting from 2012 perspective , while being jollied along by Simon Sharma....enjoyed....talks about Jazz at one point [analytically]....

    bong ching
  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    #2
    i shall listen but i confess to deep reservations about Hobsbawm .... he stayed in the CP post the Hungarian repression by the Soviets led locally by Andropov
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    • eighthobstruction
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 6406

      #3
      For sure....some silly old blindfolding, and fingers in ears....dealt with towards end of the programme....
      bong ching

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37368

        #4
        I found this programme very disappointing, having had high hopes for it. It seemed to be as much about Sharma as Hobsbawm, and I agree with calum that the issue of Hobsbawm's unapologeticaly sticking by the CP after Hungary, let alone the common misconception of equating Stalinism with socialism, demanded to be taken up. No sooner than H as critic Frank Newton started elaborating on how jazz outgrew the entertainment sphere, halfway through saying the word "bebop" S cut him off! The one interesting limitation H pointed out, as almost an afterthought crammed into the last 5 minutes, was that although Marxism has proven good at analysing whys and wherefores, it has never envisioned socialist governmental types as practicable alternatives to bourgeois democracy.

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