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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
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    #46
    Whilst I have about as much interest in horse-racing (or indeed horse-trading of any kind) as I imagine Paul McCartney to have in Rameau, I suppose that noticing en passant that one particular racehorse has been named after a composer might just persuade me temporarily to suspend that disinterest...

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    • JimD
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      • Nov 2010
      • 267

      #47
      What I like is his arrogant Joe Cool look. Can horses look arrogant?

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      • Beef Oven

        #48
        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
        Whilst I have about as much interest in horse-racing (or indeed horse-trading of any kind) as I imagine Paul McCartney to have in Rameau, I suppose that noticing en passant that one particular racehorse has been named after a composer might just persuade me temporarily to suspend that disinterest...
        that is basically what I was going to post, but not so eloquently!

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        • EdgeleyRob
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12180

          #49
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          I have been mad about racing since I was a kid in the 1970s . He is undoubtedly the best horse I have ever seen . I dropped everything to go and see him run in the Royal Lodge as a 2 yo but have not seen him since - after today's spectacular spreadeagling of the field at Ascot I will be at York and Champions day if he is there - an awesome equine athlete
          Shergar for me.Replays of that derby win always send a shiver........

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          • gradus
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5606

            #50
            Knowing nothing about horses, I nevertheless saw an article about an australian horse called Black Caviar who has come over to run here and is allegedly the fastest horse ever measured over 200 yards. It struck me as an odd claim since even the shortest races are somewhat longer. In any case is she a competitor for Frankel?

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            • Richard Tarleton

              #51
              Originally posted by gradus View Post
              Knowing nothing about horses, I nevertheless saw an article about an australian horse called Black Caviar who has come over to run here and is allegedly the fastest horse ever measured over 200 yards. It struck me as an odd claim since even the shortest races are somewhat longer. In any case is she a competitor for Frankel?
              Probably knowing even less than you gradus - presumably this was over a measured 200 yards in the middle of a race when running at top speed? Rather as they do with land speed records...

              I'm reminded of that Frost Report item in the 1960s - the Aga Khan won the Derby in ...., a surprise to some of the horses who had entered....well it seemed funny at the time.

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              • antongould
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8780

                #52
                From boosting my grant by marking the board in a bookies in the sixties he is the greatest flat horse I've ever seen - IMHO he has surpassed Sea Bird. I suppose we are lucky his owner isn't short of a bob or two and has kept him in training as a four year old. This year he is the complete package, he settles beautifully and then just cruises effortlessly clear of some very good horses.

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6455

                  #53
                  Originally posted by gradus View Post
                  Knowing nothing about horses, I nevertheless saw an article about an australian horse called Black Caviar who has come over to run here and is allegedly the fastest horse ever measured over 200 yards. It struck me as an odd claim since even the shortest races are somewhat longer. In any case is she a competitor for Frankel?
                  Black Caviar is a sprinter, whose best distance is thought to be 6 furlongs. Frankel has been

                  been camapaigned at a mile and is likely to go up in distance later in the year. It's highly likely

                  that Frankel would make a good sprinter, so much natural speed does he possess, but a head - to - head

                  is sadly very unlikely,

                  As for the OP, I am increasingly of the view too that Frankel is simply the greatest I have seen.

                  He has simply blown away other group 1 winners in sensational style.

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                    that is basically what I was going to post, but not so eloquently!
                    Thank you for the compliment, which I'm nevertheless far from certain that I deserve.

                    Anyway, they shoot horses, don't they?

                    Socialists (of whom there are several on this board) don't like horses because of the unavoidable association with forelock tugging, not to mention gallop polls.

                    I had thought that the National Hunt had the forename (not forelock) Jeremy and his appearance at the Leveson inquiry has failed to persuade me otherwise.

                    Any sport where a "derby" takes place other than in Derby itself must surely be suspect.

                    Any animal whose height is measured in hands despite the fact of it having none must surely be likewise.

                    At one time and in one place, somebody bet on de bay; nowadays, many more people bet on eBay, although I'm less than convinced that this represents any kind of cultural improvement.

                    Rather than the finest stallion, give me instead a bottle of the finest Alion.

                    Those are my mane comments on the subject, made on the hoof and, since many of them have fallen at the first fence and might also risk conveying the impression that they all originate from someone who's forgotten to lock the stable door and couldn't even care less whether or not the horse might previously have bolted, I'll desist from boring the readership any further by undertaking not to trot out any more, apart, perhaps, from that legendary Viking cry "a Norse, a Norse, my kingdom for a Norse!"...
                    Last edited by ahinton; 21-06-12, 04:20.

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6455

                      #55
                      I was fortunate enough to bump into Frankel on the gallops the other day.

                      Sir Henry likes taking him out at teatime when nobody else is around.

                      If anyone fancies a bet on Saturday I am told the unraced Al Waab wins the 4.25 at Newmarket. :)

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                      • Petrushka
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12241

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        I was fortunate enough to bump into Frankel on the gallops the other day.

                        Sir Henry likes taking him out at teatime when nobody else is around.

                        If anyone fancies a bet on Saturday I am told the unraced Al Waab wins the 4.25 at Newmarket. :)
                        Great stuff, Alison. I once foolishly ignored a tip direct from an owner at Cheltenham three years ago and it won at 22/1. I stood at the rail with my head in my hands vowing never to ignore such a tip again. Will put a tenner on Al Waab.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12180

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          I was fortunate enough to bump into Frankel on the gallops the other day.

                          Sir Henry likes taking him out at teatime when nobody else is around.

                          If anyone fancies a bet on Saturday I am told the unraced Al Waab wins the 4.25 at Newmarket. :)
                          Thanks Alison,I'll include it in my Yankee (odds of around 6/1 ?).

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                          • Alison
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6455

                            #58
                            Looks like the morning favourite has been withdrawn so 6-1 looking optimistic now.

                            Luckily I got on at bigger on Betfair last night.

                            Quite excited about this one !

                            But you know what can happen in racing

                            .... especially with debutant two year olds !!

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                            • Petrushka
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12241

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              Looks like the morning favourite has been withdrawn so 6-1 looking optimistic now.

                              Luckily I got on at bigger on Betfair last night.

                              Quite excited about this one !

                              But you know what can happen in racing

                              .... especially with debutant two year olds !!
                              Very many thanks, Alison. Well done indeed. More please!!
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • Alison
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6455

                                #60
                                Wow, 7-1 as well.

                                In last position for much of the race too.

                                Phew, I need a lie down xXx

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