The long boat game

[MrGongGong]

Quite possibly but why not address your comment to the point that I made and not try and deflect the issue, which I have to say based on other threads seems to be your modus operandi, whenever things get awkward for you.

I wasn't deflecting anything
more that some people take things far to seriously
and suppression of dissent is very much part of the current governments agenda

or is the "point" that he is a terrible evil man who should be deported to a country where they don't have the stupid namby pamby idea of "human rights" and left to rot in a middle eastern hell hole ?

a bloke goes for a swim ................... and ????

[Mary Chambers]

Many of the London colleges, including UCL, had a policy of making offers like that based on the impression they had formed of the applicant at interview.

Oxbridge did this too, and I should imagine it still does. 3 As mean little now, and were never really evidence of an original mind.

I know someone who was offered a place at an Oxford college with 2 Es, because they very much wanted him as an organ scholar. He got 4 As in the end, as far as I remember. This was in the 1980s.

[teamsaint]

Quite possibly but why not address your comment to the point that I made and not try and deflect the issue, which I have to say based on other threads seems to be your modus operandi, whenever things get awkward for you.

but the point is serious. cameron and the clogger have power.........the swimmer really doesn't.
They really ARE implementing policies to increase surveillance, for instance.
must have learned how to control us somewhere......wonder where?

and its not like the swimmer is the only one fiddling with online stuff....the rich and powerful employ lots of clever computer guys to keep their online profile as pretty as a portrait of George Osborne.

[MrGongGong]

Oxbridge did this too, and I should imagine it still does. 3 As mean little now, and were never really evidence of an original mind.

I know someone who was offered a place at an Oxford college with 2 Es, because they very much wanted him as an organ scholar. He got 4 As in the end, as far as I remember. This was in the 1980s.

My daughter was given an unconditional place to study music at a very well known university with a rather good music department which kind of made her A levels a bit redundant. If you are really wanted this is a definite possibility (and from a "bog standard" comprehensive I might add)

[teamsaint]

Oxbridge did this too, and I should imagine it still does. 3 As mean little now, and were never really evidence of an original mind.

I know someone who was offered a place at an Oxford college with 2 Es, because they very much wanted him as an organ scholar. He got 4 As in the end, as far as I remember. This was in the 1980s.

we know there has been grade inflation, and that not everybody with 3 A's is a genius(especially some groomed on £25k a year education), but for a lot of kids in ordinary school you still need to be bright and work to get those grades.

I agree with your thoughts about original minds though, which is why the current Ucas system (not only Oxbridge entrance) can be very problematic.

[Beef Oven]

Many of the London colleges, including UCL, had a policy of making offers like that based on the impression they had formed of the applicant at interview. In 1979 I was offered two Cs by UCL, accompanied by a letter saying that they expected me to do much better (which I did). In those days it was still possible for universities and colleges to adopt a more leisurely approach to the process of making an offer to a student. The two Cs offer was intended as a recognition that success at university wasn't necessarily the same as success in A levels, but principally it was designed to even out the differences between candidates who were at schools with a record of exam success and those who weren't.

And some way of recognising that highly intelligent candidates who don't go to schools with 90% or whatever it is university 'standard' grades are less likely to get the grades for admission to certain universities is what's needed, IMO. Instead the so-called 'elite' universities (including UCL) have their heads deep buried in the tuition fees trough, have spent their time lobbying for a removal of the tuition fees cap, and regard idealism as a rude word.

Maybe the fact that my mate was creaming everyone on the national tennis circuit and was the English light-heavyweight judo champion had something to do with it! I am far too modest to say why Lancaster offered me two Cs and a B!!! (not that I went there!)

[Mr Pee]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5104&Itemid=26&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailymash+%28The+Daily+Mash.+It%27s+news+to+us.%29&utm_content=Netvibes

[teamsaint]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index....ntent=Netvibes

nice one Peester !

even better than the half time entertainment at Selhurst park yesterday.......and that was worth seeing, trust me !

[Simon]

Unless I'm mistaken (in which case I'm sure I'll be told and for which I apologise) there seems to be some idea floating around that UCL and, astoundingly, the LSE, are somehow among, or at least gravitating towards, "elite" educational establishments.

I think we should scotch that myth, in the interests of rational discussion.

[Resurrection Man]

but the point is serious. cameron and the clogger have power.........the swimmer really doesn't.
....

Well he exhibited his power on Saturday. My point is still moot. He is so typical of his ilk. Likes dishing it out ...viz muck up the Boat Race ...but can't take any pushback. That's censorship. Yes, others might do as well but don't divert the point. I am talking about Fenton-Trenton.

[Beef Oven]

Unless I'm mistaken (in which case I'm sure I'll be told and for which I apologise) there seems to be some idea floating around that UCL and, astoundingly, the LSE, are somehow among, or at least gravitating towards, "elite" educational establishments.

I think we should scotch that myth, in the interests of rational discussion.

Here we go again!!
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[MrGongGong]

Here we go again!!
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Academics hey , you can't pull a fast one on old Prof Says of NU

[teamsaint]

oh noes, seems I was wrong about inclusiveness after all........

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/oxford-'has-enough-black-students-for-earth%2c-wind-and-fire-tribute-band'-201104123711/

seems they helping the cultural life out, too !!

[Beef Oven]

oh noes, seems I was wrong about inclusiveness after all........

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/oxford-'has-enough-black-students-for-earth%2c-wind-and-fire-tribute-band'-201104123711/

seems they helping the cultural life out, too !!

If only they had the strength to 'tough-out' political correctness and get on with a Haydn programme

[Vile Consort]

I strongly suspect that around that time, late 70's, you didn't need straight A's for Oxbridge

I applied to Cambridge for entrance in 1973 after getting three straight A's and still had to sit the entrance exam and undergo a gruelling interview (which was entirely about the subject I proposed to study, I might add) at which I thought I hadn't done very well.

I notice that 75% of my college's admissions are from state schools, which, apparently, is about average for British universities. It is claimed it achieves this without positive discrimination, so rather casts doubt on what the other colleges are up to. It was also the first Cambridge mens' college to decide admit women. My experience of Oxbridge may therefore not be a wholly typical one.