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  • Chris Newman
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2100

    Lord Elgin's Great Bed

    The Great Bed of Ware, mentioned in Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, is no longer in the Victoria and Albert Museum where for years it has snuggled close to Constable's depiction of Salisbury Cathedral. It has been returned to its Hertfordshire origins, which to me makes a lot of sense, and for which I offer my gratitude to the wisdom of the V & A. Which brings me to another far greater conundrum in the realm of museums and their plunder. I believe that Lord Elgin's "gift" to the British Museum, the Elgin Marbles, should be returned to Athens. I would quite happily view well-made moulded copies in London (akin to the reproduction room at the V & A with its "Michaelangelo David", "Ghiberti Doors" and "tombs of Richard the Lionheart and Eleanor of Aquitaine from Fontevraud".

    Of course, it opens the can of worms, where do we stop?
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Originally posted by Chris Newman View Post
    I believe that Lord Elgin's "gift" to the British Museum, the Elgin Marbles, should be returned to Athens. I would quite happily view well-made moulded copies in London (akin to the reproduction room at the V & A with its "Michaelangelo David", "Ghiberti Doors" and "tombs of Richard the Lionheart and Eleanor of Aquitaine from Fontevraud".
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12800

      #3
      My 'solution' has not won much support. It is - that the British Government should sell - or donate - the Marbles back to the Administration from which Lord Elgin acquired them. To wit, the successors to the Ottomans, in Ankara. The Turks. But my Greek friends don't think this is a very clever idea...

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        My 'solution' has not won much support. It is - that the British Government should sell - or donate - the Marbles back to the Administration from which Lord Elgin acquired them. To wit, the successors to the Ottomans, in Ankara. The Turks. But my Greek friends don't think this is a very clever idea...
        Surely handling stolen goods is an offence ?

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        • Chris Newman
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2100

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Surely handling stolen goods is an offence ?
          Beat me to it!!

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          • vinteuil
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12800

            #6
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            Surely handling stolen goods is an offence ?
            ah, Mr Gongs - if we are to begin to define what is stolen - where shall we end?

            Didn't Pierre-Joseph Proudhon have something to say on this?

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #7
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ah, Mr Gongs - if we are to begin to define what is stolen - where shall we end?

              Didn't Pierre-Joseph Proudhon have something to say on this?
              I hear the estate of Puccini are after a certain ALW

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30256

                #8
                The Great Bed is only on exhibition there for a year. It still belongs to the V & A.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Chris Newman
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2100

                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  The Great Bed is only on exhibition there for a year. It still belongs to the V & A.
                  Hey ho! Perhaps I did not read far enough down the BBC News article. I should have noted the last line:

                  One of the Victoria and Albert Museum's (V&A) "greatest treasures" is set to be dismantled in readiness for its return to Hertfordshire.


                  Still, I believe the Elgin Marbles should be returned.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chris Newman View Post
                    Hey ho! Perhaps I did not read far enough down the BBC News article. I should have noted the last line
                    That's what comes of rushing into things, Chris.









                    You should've slept on it.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • amateur51

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      That's what comes of rushing into things, Chris.









                      You should've slept on it.
                      Shocking, fhg!

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