The Dreams of William Golding. Sat March 17th on BBC2 TV 9.30 pm

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  • Hornspieler
    • Dec 2024

    The Dreams of William Golding. Sat March 17th on BBC2 TV 9.30 pm

    Of particular interest to me, because Sir William Golding was my English Master at school and I actually have a photograph which I took of him during a lesson when we were supposed to be writing a paraphrase or something similar and he was (not supposed to be) writing his first novel; The Lord of the Flies.

    Anyone who was at our school at that time would have recognised some of their classmates in some of the book's characters - even our Deputy Head Master, who like Golding had recently returned from wartime service in the Royal Navy to resume their pre-war schoolmasters' posts.

    I will certainly be watching this programme and I can take this opportunity to give a few facts which may not appear relevent to the subject matter of the programme.

    He was an accomplished pianist, a very good cellist and, when we needed an oboe in the school orchestra, he taught himself to play it


    We had an Air Training Corps at school and I was in the ATC band, (although I was actually too young to join). When the two mariners returned to the school, they persuaded the Headmaster to abandon the ATC in favour of a Sea Cadet Corps. (Thirty miles from the nearest sea shore, but there was the River Avon to practise on). When I was called up for my National Service, I joined The Royal Artillery Band.

    I wonder how many others, outside of Royalty, have worn the uniforms of all three of the armed services?

    The programme might be a bit late at night for some, but presumably it will be available on the red button.

    HS
  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12986

    #2
    Coincidentally I am just reading Carey's biog of WG. That very picture is of course in the book - exactly as Hornspieler relates!

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12986

      #3
      Coincidentally, I am just reading the Carey biog of WG. Hornspieler's photo is in there - exactly as he describes!

      But which character in LoF are you, HS??

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      • Segilla
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 136

        #4
        From what I recall of bandsmen in the RAF, it was a good skive and always took precedence over proper work!

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        • amateur51

          #5
          Originally posted by Segilla View Post
          From what I recall of bandsmen in the RAF, it was a good skive and always took precedence over proper work!
          Have a care who you're calling a skiver, Segilla - we have a former RAF Bandsman in our very midst, although he does a very good impression of being Rupert Murdoch's aide-de-camp in West Sussex these days
          Last edited by Guest; 13-03-12, 19:48. Reason: shocking trypos

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            FANTASTIC post, HS!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26572

              #7
              Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
              Of particular interest to me, because Sir William Golding was my English Master at school and I actually have a photograph which I took of him during a lesson
              Another great anecdote, HS!

              Might you consider posting that photograph here?
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Hornspieler

                #8
                A little extract from my Xmas stocking filler "Bravo Maestro"

                My school music master, the late A. F. (Tony) Brown, had a talent for over-simplification.

                “There are only three basic requirements to becoming an accomplished instrumentalist,”
                he told me. “The right note, in the right place, in the right way!”

                How simple! And how obviously true, but I soon learned that those basic criteria can only be
                achieved if one also is in the right frame of mind, the right state of health and in the right
                company. In order to fulfill the last condition -- and to become a professional musician -- one
                has to add two more “rights”. As many a famous artist has freely admitted; his or her initial
                success was achieved by being at the right place at the right time!

                Before going on to recount how I managed to be in the right place at the right time, it is worth
                recording my first experience of the orchestral player's repartee;

                Tony Brown, was a great friend of our English master, William (later Sir William) Golding;
                who was known affectionately throughout the school as `Scruff Golding', because he wore a
                shaggy beard in the days when it was usual for schoolmasters to be clean shaven. `Scruff' was
                an accomplished pianist, a pretty good cellist and also played the oboe to a standard which
                was equal to the demands of our school orchestra.

                When an orchestra tunes up it is, of course, the oboist who `gives the A, to which everyone else
                tunes his instrument. At one particular rehearsal, the school orchestra was sounding even
                more excruciating than usual.

                “Mr. Golding. Can you give us that `A' again, please?”

                Golding was a stickler for correct English usage. “I'm afraid I can't give you that one,” he
                replied, “but I'll give you one like it!”
                One of his many accomplishments was that he was ambidextrous.
                The blackboards in our school were about six feet wide.
                He would stand in the centre with his chalk in the left hand and begin to write. When he reached the middle of the board, he transferred the chalk to his right hand and finished the sentence. If you hadn't been watching him, you wouldn't know at what word the transfer was made. His writing with both hands was the same - untidy, but you couldn't spot the difference.

                HS
                Last edited by Guest; 14-03-12, 07:21.

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                • Chris Newman
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2100

                  #9
                  Hi HS,
                  You would not believe it but my Latin teacher did something similar only he wrote the same sentence with the left hand writing in Latin and and the right one in English....at the same time.

                  BWS
                  Chris

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                  • Hornspieler

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    Coincidentally, I am just reading the Carey biog of WG. Hornspieler's photo is in there - exactly as he describes!

                    But which character in LoF are you, HS??
                    Golding described himself as "a monster in deed, word and thought." And he admitted in private papers that he tried to rape a 15-year-old girl when he was a teenager -- a revelation that caused a stir when this book was published in England.


                    No one to my knowledge, DracoM, but I would not be surprised if some of our fellow message boarders would describe me as "Piggy".

                    Might you consider posting that photograph here?
                    Give me clear instructions Caliban and I would be happy to oblige. (Or I could, with permission, email the picture to french frank and ask her' very politely, if she would be so kind as to insert it into this thread).

                    HS

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30456

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                      (Or I could, with permission, email the picture to french frank and ask her' very politely, if she would be so kind as to insert it into this thread).
                      Ready and waiting, HS!
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26572

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                        Give me clear instructions Caliban and I would be happy to oblige. (Or I could, with permission, email the picture to french frank and ask her' very politely, if she would be so kind as to insert it into this thread).

                        HS

                        In case it's still helpful, here are the instructions I posted on a thread about that very subject: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=images



                        The easiest I know is this: go to this site http://imgur.com/

                        You have to register with an email address. Once done, you click the "From your computer" button.... find the image on your system... click on it and it will upload

                        Once you see the image on the imgur page, click on it and it will enlarge from the thumbnail. You will see a series of codes, bottom left will be "BBCode (message boards)" - copy that code, paste it into the box here on FOR3.

                        If you then click 'preview' message in the 'advanced' screen, you should see your image in place of the link.

                        Good luck, hope to see evidence of your success soon!
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30456

                          #13
                          Here it is, then:



                          HS writes: The clandestine photo was taken during an English lesson and Scruff was too concerned with his writing, left handed you will notice, to be aware that I was concealing my little Agfa Karat camera behind a pile of textbooks. I don't know if it is the photo from Carey's biog (I did give our old boys association a copy a few years back) but this is definitely the picture which I took. (and developed and printed myself)
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26572

                            #14
                            Excellent!!!!

                            Funny to see the waste-paper basket - a real one! - perfectly positioned!

                            Many thanks HS (and FF!)
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30456

                              #15
                              It is good, isn't it? And the view out through the window makes a perfect backdrop. Congrats to the teenage (?) photographer.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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