The Soaring Sunday Sun

[Mr Pee]

Apparently Rupe has Tweeted sales of 3m today.

according to 'more or less' programme on r4, we are apparently highly unlikely to find that murdoch did sell 3 million copies as alleged. 'more or less' insist such round figures are usually largely fictional.

perhaps rupe meant two hundred and seventeen.....? but rounded it off to 3 million, for public useage, and in order to promote 'sales confidence' in his products.

Well, it looks as though "more or less" should do a bit more research:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/27/sun-on-sunday-launch?newsfeed=true

And I can't help wondering why there is a thread here slagging off a newspaper which not one single poster has actually bothered to read, and which I'm sure you won't be reading in the future...oh, wait...it's because it is a News International publication.

Funny how we haven't seen an equivalent thread about the tragic death of Marie Colvin, the brave and outstanding Sunday Times reporter, who worked for Mr Murdoch for the last 22 years.

Any chance you could at least acknowledge the fact that she represented the very best of journalism, as do many people who work for News International?

And don't get me started on all the pompous nonsense about Amanda Holden......

[Ferretfancy]

You are thinking of Amanda Burton. Amanda Holden is another actress and sometime star of musicals. She is perhaps best known for being a judge on one of Simon Cowell's dismal talent shows. I understand her main contribution is to burst into tears after every performance (I don't know myself, having never actually watched one of those programmes).

Apologies LHC, you are quite correct, I was thinking of Amanda Burton. However, Amanda Holden is probably just as boring, so perhaps my original comment is nearly appropriate.
All reality shows are rubbish, just an extension of the Toy Town world in which we are now expected to live.
Have you crashed any protons lately?
Bws.
Ferret

[Nick Armstrong]

What's that sound? Ah... Pee off again

Sorry, should have put a comma after Pee.

Mr Pee, "Smithers" to Rupert Murdoch's "Mr Burns"....

[handsomefortune]

my apologiess if my post reads as if 'more or less' might choose to ever comment on murdoch, they wouldn't be so dim....especially not in the middle of a public inquiry into him, and his employees.

however,

'more or less' insist such round figures are usually largely fictional.

it's the ethos of the programme, to raise awareness around numerical figures publicly presented as fact, when actually figures may well be guesswork, or questionable. as posted, the clue that 'more or less' listeners are supposed to look out for in the news etc is unusually neat numbers, least likely to be fact.....that's my point.

arguably, even rupert can't keep up an expensive promotional campaign for every sunday paper published....not to mention also paying off people who his staff have offended. fantastic though some may think him, he is not a bottomless purse of cash:

which launched at a cut-price 50p backed by a multimillion-pound marketing push,

if we were discussing john smith starting up a co-operative org, for instance, a financial adviser would rapidly suggest that this outlay and return is highly unsustainable.

the era of faux illnesses, 'too many' personal details of whatever description etc as a means to relaunch, capture public sympathy for new, or fading celebs, may nearly be over perhaps? i notice even yahoo comments, below articles reflecting this same tactic, now contain a large proportion of posts exclaiming 'who is this person? never heard of her/him'!

so, imv far from 'pompous', my point is that this specific tactic may well be finally wearing thin. even the most celeb obssessed tv audiences seem to have sussed this specific promotional trick, for what it actually is. people simply feel they no longer need, or want, to keep up with dozens of names, of people who are not particularly worthy of note, or to their personal taste. there is nothing 'pompous' about this imv.

[LHC]

Have you crashed any protons lately?
Bws.
Ferret

Not personally, but I was amused by this valentine's day story about the LHC:

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/02/proton-beam-shot-through-the-h.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

[Ferretfancy]

Thanks LHC, I loved that link!

[Flosshilde]

Apparently Rupe has Tweeted sales of 3m today.

according to 'more or less' programme on r4, we are apparently highly unlikely to find that murdoch did sell 3 million copies as alleged. 'more or less' insist such round figures are usually largely fictional.

And it will no doubt include the bulk ones - those handed out free on planes, trains & other places.

[Flosshilde]

... pompous nonsense ...

& when it comes to pompous nonsense, nobody does it better!

[amateur51]

Well, it looks as though "more or less" should do a bit more research:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/27/sun-on-sunday-launch?newsfeed=true

And I can't help wondering why there is a thread here slagging off a newspaper which not one single poster has actually bothered to read, and which I'm sure you won't be reading in the future...oh, wait...it's because it is a News International publication.

Funny how we haven't seen an equivalent thread about the tragic death of Marie Colvin, the brave and outstanding Sunday Times reporter, who worked for Mr Murdoch for the last 22 years.

Any chance you could at least acknowledge the fact that she represented the very best of journalism, as do many people who work for News International?

And don't get me started on all the pompous nonsense about Amanda Holden......

The death of Marie Colvin is obviously to be regretted, Mr Pee.

Maybe we were all waiting for you to publish an encomium to her, being so keen as you are on all things News Corp but we waited, and we waited, and we ....zzzzzzzzz

[Mr Pee]

The death of Marie Colvin is obviously to be regretted, Mr Pee.

Maybe we were all waiting for you to publish an encomium to her, being so keen as you are on all things News Corp but we waited, and we waited, and we ....zzzzzzzzz

I am flattered that you await my posts with such keen anticipation, Amateur. I didn't know you cared.

I am not in the habit, unlike some posters, of starting obituary threads. I generally find them maudlin and self-indulgent. Plenty has been said in the media about Marie Colvin's sad end and her many remarkable achievements over the years. I see no point in replicating that here.

However, amongst the tediously relentless stream of vitriol and ridicule that pervades the merest mention of News International on these boards, I would have hoped that there might have been at least some acknowledgement that Marie Colvin represented all that was admirable about journalism, even though she was- according to most contributors here- some sort of emissary of Satan, working as she did for the ultimate embodiment of evil, Rupert Murdoch.

[Flosshilde]

I am not in the habit, unlike some posters, of starting obituary threads. I generally find them maudlin and self-indulgent. Plenty has been said in the media about Marie Colvin's sad end and her many remarkable achievements over the years. I see no point in replicating that here.

But you expect someone else to start one? - "Funny how we haven't seen an equivalent thread about the tragic death of Marie Colvin"

[Mr Pee]

There seem to be plenty of posters who are keen on remiding us of our all too short span. As I have said, I am not one of them. However, given the obsession with all things Murdoch that seems to occupy the minds of so many here, I was hoping against hope that one such person might have acknowledged that not everything or everybody connected with News International is an embodiment of evil. I should have known better.

A nice bit of praise for Sky Arts in last Saturday's Independent, by the way:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/david-lister/david-lister-sky-arts-is-showing-how-to-do-culture-on-television--can-the-bbc-please-take-note-7440622.html

[amateur51]

I am flattered that you await my posts with such keen anticipation, Amateur. I didn't know you cared.

I am not in the habit, unlike some posters, of starting obituary threads. I generally find them maudlin and self-indulgent. Plenty has been said in the media about Marie Colvin's sad end and her many remarkable achievements over the years. I see no point in replicating that here.

However, amongst the tediously relentless stream of vitriol and ridicule that pervades the merest mention of News International on these boards, I would have hoped that there might have been at least some acknowledgement that Marie Colvin represented all that was admirable about journalism, even though she was- according to most contributors here- some sort of emissary of Satan, working as she did for the ultimate emobdiment of evil, Rupert Murdoch.

I wasn't flattering you Mr Pee, I was pointing out the double-standards in your message.

You really don't seem to realise that this man and his organisation that you hold in such uncritical high regard is currently wrapped in a web of criminal activities, including illegal phone-tapping and perhaps making payments to the police for information. These activities are not anything to be admired and even Murdoch has recognised this by closing down the News of the World.

Perhaps of course your hero worship will not permit you to admit this.

[Paul Sherratt]

>>the ultimate emobdiment of evil, Rupert Murdoch.

Of course he isn't. He wouldn't dare upstage his boss.

[Flosshilde]

Unfortunately Alex Salmond is now sucking up to Murdoch. http://www.heraldscotland.com/politi...ing.1329879888 Blair could, at least, say that he didn't know about all the phone tapping etc; Cameron could just about give him the benefit of the doubt, but there's no excuse for Salmond. Perhaps Alex is missing Donald, now that the latter has fallen out with him & is threatening to sue? http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...bines.16866752