Room 101 - what single aspect of modern life should be consigned to oblivion?

[Mary Chambers]

virtually all football is on SKY. The amount of football on terrestrial is minimal.

Really? I don't have Sky, and there's far too much football on other channels for my taste.

I'm sure the football fans on here aren't among the primitive packs of scarf-clad yelling fools I see on television news. Surely not....

[Panjandrum]

Really? I don't have Sky, and there's far too much football on other channels for my taste.

....

Agree with you completely Mary. On Sunday, I watched disbelievingly as programmes were systematically cancelled, rescheduled and put back in order for a posse of pundits to blather on about a game which had finished hours beforehand. I can just about accept programmes overrunning if a game is still in progress, but when it has finished and the stadium has emptied to have to listen to these empty vessels boring on and on beggars belief.

[cloughie]

virtually all football is on SKY. The amount of football on terrestrial is minimal.

...and sub-Premiership coverage on BBC television is very poor, ansd disproportionate to the level of support.

[amateur51]

Regardless of which channel it is on, it is the most palpably vicious influence on today's society (viz avarice; selfishness; cheating; lack of loyalty; absurd self aggrandisement etc)

Unlike investment banking then, Panyan?

[cloughie]

Unlike investment banking then, Panyan?

[scottycelt]

virtually all football is on SKY. The amount of football on terrestrial is minimal.

That is perfectly true, and that's precisely the reason I also subscribe to SKY ... I wouldn't do so otherwise..

To sneer at the world's most popular 'Beautiful Game', merely because of the behaviour of some of its practitioners and onlookers, is a bit like scorning the music at a concert because some in the orchestra are palpably half-drunk, the conductor is a Prima Donna poseur, and some of the audience constantly indulge in a collective coughing-fit.

[Mr Pee]

he is probably on the sky arts/HD/multiroom/no footy package for selected special customers only.

I have the basic package plus HD, which does not include the football, but does include Sky Arts 1 and 2. However, from next Friday, I will be able to enjoy Sky's new channel dedicated exclusively to Formula 1!! I can barely contain my excitement!!

[MrGongGong]

Thanks for that MrP I had no idea you had Sky tv until now

(Other unethical criminal organisations are available !)

[amateur51]

Thanks for that MrP I had no idea you had Sky tv until now

(Other unethical criminal organisations are available !)

[Panjandrum]

Unlike investment banking then, Panyan?

In the same ball park AmDram.

[cloughie]

That is perfectly true, and that's precisely the reason I also subscribe to SKY ... I wouldn't do so otherwise..

To sneer at the world's most popular 'Beautiful Game', merely because of the behaviour of some of its practitioners and onlookers, is a bit like scorning the music at a concert because some in the orchestra are palpably half-drunk, the conductor is a Prima Donna poseur, and some of the audience constantly indulge in a collective coughing-fit.

Or scorning classical music because of the way it is presented on 'Breakfast'.

[Mr Pee]

Or scorning classical music because of the way it is presented on 'Breakfast'.

I haven't seen any posters doing that. The presentational style and safe repertoire choices on Breakfast are certainly open to criticism, but I don't think anybody has been disparaging the music itself.

[Mary Chambers]

I haven't seen any posters doing that. The presentational style and safe repertoire choices on Breakfast are certainly open to criticism, but I don't think anybody has been disparaging the music itself.

To be fair, I don't think cloughie was saying that anybody had. He was saying that condemning football because of its supporters was a similar attitude. However, there must be some reason that football attracts the people it does.

[Panjandrum]

To sneer at the world's most popular 'Beautiful Game', merely because of the behaviour of some of its practitioners and onlookers, is a bit like scorning the music at a concert because some in the orchestra are palpably half-drunk, the conductor is a Prima Donna poseur, and some of the audience constantly indulge in a collective coughing-fit.

The big difference is that a piece of music exists independent of its evanescent performers (and cannot be ruined by one performance), whereas any game of football is, by definition, a spontaneous act indivisible from its participants; unless you are arguing that all football matches are basically the same as any other.

[Mr Pee]

However, there must be some reason that football attracts the people it does.

Meaning what, precisely? That sounds like a remarkably patronising generalisation, rather like saying that Radio3 listeners are all snobbish and elitist. Perish the thought.....