Room 101 - what single aspect of modern life should be consigned to oblivion?

[Parry1912]

there's far too much football on other channels for my taste

And there's far too many cooking programmes, soap operas, antique programmes, vampire dramas, etc for my taste but you can't please everybody at all times.

[handsomefortune]

remarkably patronising generalisation,

but to be fair, this thread title does tend to encourage a subjective approach, highly likely to be a 'generalisation'?

rather like saying that Radio3 listeners are all snobbish and elitist. Perish the thought.....

classical music fans don't tend to luxuriate in endless media discussion on many channels, as regards performance, money exchanges, and other routines and rituals associated with 'the beautiful game'.

ironically, the management generalisations many consider damaging to r3 of late, are carried out in the wake of murdoch-style highly generalised accusations of 'elitism'...coupled with a sort of inverted ageism, based around greater audience figs....'success' judged only numerically - rather like tabloid paper sales.

besides, why isn't anyone sticking up for mary chamber's other 'generalised' dislike, boxers and boxing?

[cloughie]

remarkably patronising generalisation,

but to be fair, this thread title does tend to encourage a subjective approach, highly likely to be a 'generalisation'?

rather like saying that Radio3 listeners are all snobbish and elitist. Perish the thought.....

classical music fans don't tend to luxuriate in endless media discussion on many channels, as regards performance, money exchanges, and other routines and rituals associated with 'the beautiful game'.

ironically, the management generalisations many consider damaging to r3 of late, are carried out in the wake of murdoch-style highly generalised accusations of 'elitism'...coupled with a sort of inverted ageism, based around greater audience figs....'success' judged only numerically - rather like tabloid paper sales.

besides, why isn't anyone sticking up for mary chamber's other 'generalised' dislike, boxers and boxing?

...and have you noticed how cricket attracts corrupt, greedy gamblers?

[John Skelton]

I'm sure the football fans on here aren't among the primitive packs of scarf-clad yelling fools I see on television news. Surely not....

"It's not so much local trouble," explained DI Christine Bartlett of the National Arts Intelligence Bureau, "though the Eastbourne Choral Society / Hastings Philharmonic Society rivalry always has a hardcore of trouble makers. It's the international fixtures. Like the time the Wagnerites took an Ian Bostridge concert chanting You'll never sing at Bayreuth, or the time 'the Aldeburgh Head-Hunters' ran the 'Huddersfield Contemporary Young Casuals' taunting them with Avant-garde you're having a laugh. Those international festivals are always a nightmare to police: Milan opera supporters against Bremen chamber music fanatics."

'Frank' (not his real name) from the notorious Arnold Bax Society explains: "We don't go after the scarfers, the tourists, the family supporters, the type who buy a programme and a signed CD. We go after their firm, it's territorial really. Ballet companies always take a travelling 'army': we've got to defend ourselves against them, it's a matter of bragging rights."

[Mary Chambers]

That, John Skelton, is the best laugh I've had for a long time. Hard to pick a favourite bit, but I'm particularly fond of 'the notorious Arnold Bax Society' and the chant at the Ian Bostridge concert

The choral society bit is very near the truth......

[Nick Armstrong]

"It's not so much local trouble," explained DI Christine Bartlett of the National Arts Intelligence Bureau, "though the Eastbourne Choral Society / Hastings Philharmonic Society rivalry always has a hardcore of trouble makers. It's the international fixtures. Like the time the Wagnerites took an Ian Bostridge concert chanting You'll never sing at Bayreuth, or the time 'the Aldeburgh Head-Hunters' ran the 'Huddersfield Contemporary Young Casuals' taunting them with Avant-garde you're having a laugh. Those international festivals are always a nightmare to police: Milan opera supporters against Bremen chamber music fanatics."

'Frank' (not his real name) from the notorious Arnold Bax Society explains: "We don't go after the scarfers, the tourists, the family supporters, the type who buy a programme and a signed CD. We go after their firm, it's territorial really. Ballet companies always take a travelling 'army': we've got to defend ourselves against them, it's a matter of bragging rights."

An instant classic, JS!!!

[MrGongGong]

"It's not so much local trouble," explained DI Christine Bartlett of the National Arts Intelligence Bureau, "though the Eastbourne Choral Society / Hastings Philharmonic Society rivalry always has a hardcore of trouble makers. It's the international fixtures. Like the time the Wagnerites took an Ian Bostridge concert chanting You'll never sing at Bayreuth, or the time 'the Aldeburgh Head-Hunters' ran the 'Huddersfield Contemporary Young Casuals' taunting them with Avant-garde you're having a laugh. Those international festivals are always a nightmare to police: Milan opera supporters against Bremen chamber music fanatics."

'Frank' (not his real name) from the notorious Arnold Bax Society explains: "We don't go after the scarfers, the tourists, the family supporters, the type who buy a programme and a signed CD. We go after their firm, it's territorial really. Ballet companies always take a travelling 'army': we've got to defend ourselves against them, it's a matter of bragging rights."

you (seriously folks) don't want to mess with the Stockhausen society though

[Nick Armstrong]

you (seriously folks) don't want to mess with the Stockhausen society though

It's the B-Minor-Massive who worry me...

[Serial_Apologist]

It's the B-Minor-Massive who worry me...

Not the C Sharpe Retrofolklorists?

[MrGongGong]

Not the C Sharpe Retrofolklorists?

Or even the B sharp barbershop crew ?

[scottycelt]

The big difference is that a piece of music exists independent of its evanescent performers (and cannot be ruined by one performance), whereas any game of football is, by definition, a spontaneous act indivisible from its participants; unless you are arguing that all football matches are basically the same as any other.

What, me arguing ...?

Of course, no analogy is ever complete, but the salient point of my own was simply to illustrate that the intrinsic worth of an art or sport should not be unfairly devalued by any participant's shoddy performance, and/or an onlooker's disreputable behaviour.

[Flosshilde]

I from next Friday, I will be able to enjoy Sky's new channel dedicated exclusively to Formula 1!! I can barely contain my excitement!!

[amateur51]

"It's not so much local trouble," explained DI Christine Bartlett of the National Arts Intelligence Bureau, "though the Eastbourne Choral Society / Hastings Philharmonic Society rivalry always has a hardcore of trouble makers. It's the international fixtures. Like the time the Wagnerites took an Ian Bostridge concert chanting You'll never sing at Bayreuth, or the time 'the Aldeburgh Head-Hunters' ran the 'Huddersfield Contemporary Young Casuals' taunting them with Avant-garde you're having a laugh. Those international festivals are always a nightmare to police: Milan opera supporters against Bremen chamber music fanatics."

'Frank' (not his real name) from the notorious Arnold Bax Society explains: "We don't go after the scarfers, the tourists, the family supporters, the type who buy a programme and a signed CD. We go after their firm, it's territorial really. Ballet companies always take a travelling 'army': we've got to defend ourselves against them, it's a matter of bragging rights."

Brilliant, John Skelton

I promise you that it is perfectly true that I used to work in a classical record shop where a wooden mallet was kept under the counter, bearing legend 'For Use On Members of The Wagner Society'

[Nick Armstrong]

I promise you that it is perfectly true that I used to work in a classical record shop where a wooden mallet was kept under the counter, bearing legend 'For Use On Members of The Wagner Society'

Fantastic!

Useful for a bang-along if someone put Mahler 6 on, too

[MrGongGong]

Fantastic!

Useful for a bang-along if someone put Mahler 6 on, too

Get it on (as they say)

or even Heavens Door !!! (that's the Karlheinz version )