Should we still bash the bankers?

[Dave2002]

Personally I think there is still a case. There are plenty of people who deserve a lot better than they get, and seeing rich so and so's trampling over everyone else is not good for society.

[teamsaint]

well since they are reducing places like Greece to abject, poverty stricken helplessness run by bank appointed "technocratic" government, then yes.
Especially since they and their friends at the credit ratings agencies haven't even started yet...........

[cloughie]

Shouldn't the bailed-out banks' employees whose salaries are paid by the taxpayer be treated as public employees and be subject to the same pay freezes as local government employees and civil servants?

[Beef Oven]

No we shouldn't (sometimes the threads on here are too intellectual for me, but this one was easy because I knew the answer).

[Lateralthinking1]

Not "bash". It is like wielding a feather against an asteroid that has struck earth.

But if you mean constant carping and steadily removing their rights to virtually zero, I suggest the kind of process that was applied to the trade unions. Keep it going for more than 30 odd years.

[cloughie]

No we shouldn't (sometimes the threads on here are too intellectual for me, but this one was easy because I knew the answer).

As they ask on the AA thread - explain?

[Lateralthinking1]

A question to ask is who and what will be bashed if banking isn't reformed. People are looking at the global nature of politics because of this crisis far more than they did when there were benefits from international peacekeeping, foreign travel and widespread trade. This is the decade of the conspiracy. That idea of a line of cross-boundary, faceless, elites supported by Governments working together against us. The fall guy is democracy itself.

In the US friends of the bankers are pretending to be the voice of the people. Only they can stand up to an Orwellian government. So what if it was democratically elected. It is removed from the localities and too pally with even more distant foreign leaders unlike the banks which are full of smiling people and close to our homes. In the vid, Santorum's voters march towards a cliff edge that the supposedly more establishment Romney is leading them towards. Romney is even providing orders from flickering, all present, Big Brother screens. But interestingly the sounds of their march to oblivion come from their own goosesteps. They are meant to be heard both as steps from the victims of establishment dictatorship and the potential via Rick to be undemocratically all-powerful themselves.

So it's interesting that campaigning in France is underway. Looking for similarities can show how candidates and their banker friends are positioning themselves. What were the flesh creeping strategies agreed in shadowy organisations where global direction is decided? Judging by Sarkozy, these: 1. Make the campaign nasty. 2. Depict democratic forces as dictatorially elitist until believed. 3. Brazenly censor your own political record and claim to be a symbol of national values. 4. Be the ordinary guy trying to survive like everyone else. Fantasy, particularly that based on reverse logic, is the controller's newest sword. - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-7179550.html.

[mangerton]

Shouldn't the bailed-out banks' employees whose salaries are paid by the taxpayer be treated as public employees and be subject to the same pay freezes as local government employees and civil servants?

In my book, they certainly should. Nothing last year, nothing this year, possibly 1% next year and the year after.

[Beef Oven]

As they ask on the AA thread - explain?

I assume that the question mark after 'explain' indicates the rhetorical. If you wanted an answer, you'd have ended with a full stop. I needn't answer then?

[Mr Pee]

I assume that the question mark after 'explain' indicates the rhetorical. If you wanted an answer, you'd have ended with a full stop. I needn't answer then?

Please answer. (Note the full stop.)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Shouldn't the bailed-out banks' employees whose salaries are paid by the taxpayer be treated as public employees and be subject to the same pay freezes as local government employees and civil servants?

All employees should be treated in the same way - public or private.

[cloughie]

I assume that the question mark after 'explain' indicates the rhetorical. If you wanted an answer, you'd have ended with a full stop. I needn't answer then?

No we shouldn't (sometimes the threads on here are too intellectual for me, but this one was easy because I knew the answer). #4


As they ask on the AA thread - explain, please.

[MrGongGong]

Of course we shouldn't
We should scrape every penny together and take away the spurious "benefits" from supposedly "disabled" people and give this ALL to them.
After all we can't have the banks actually LENDING money can we and Sancerre is getting rather expensive these days !

"quantitive easing" .......... my arse, if you really wanted to stimulate the economy you would give random people £100 in CASH rather than think that the banks will actually lend some of the money they have been given

[cloughie]

Of course we shouldn't
We should scrape every penny together and take away the spurious "benefits" from supposedly "disabled" people and give this ALL to them.
After all we can't have the banks actually LENDING money can we and Sancerre is getting rather expensive these days !

"quantitive easing" .......... my arse, if you really wanted to stimulate the economy you would give random people £100 in CASH rather than think that the banks will actually lend some of the money they have been given

We already have!

[teamsaint]

Of course we shouldn't
We should scrape every penny together and take away the spurious "benefits" from supposedly "disabled" people and give this ALL to them.
After all we can't have the banks actually LENDING money can we and Sancerre is getting rather expensive these days !

"quantitive easing" .......... my arse, if you really wanted to stimulate the economy you would give random people £100 in CASH rather than think that the banks will actually lend some of the money they have been given

Quite. Quantitive easing is a huge LIE.

As you said, stimulate the economy by putting it into places where it gets circulated fast...like the pockets of ordinary people.